Just a warning

Напишано од Permamuted, 22.10.2014 at 16:05

Who is true indian anyway, what was his original name?

Not gonna say much, just that he is the first person to ever make it on my enemylist.He is a supervillain, a gangsta, who made me cry so many times when i was a little low rank, trying to make it, alone, in the hostile streets of atwar..ill tell you his name in clan chat

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 23.10.2014 at 08:53

Напишано од Waffel, 23.10.2014 at 02:16

Напишано од Permamuted, 22.10.2014 at 16:05

Who is true indian anyway, what was his original name? everything indian tiger does is a scam, scam duels with altered victory conditions, fake duels that are just normal 1v1s and a signature which he encourages you to click so he can get more sp.

Behave?
How is this not personal attacking? Tell me pls. If I said anything like this about you, I would get you and khal crying 24/7 about personal attack this, bitching that.
He isnt doing anything against the rules.

Back off Lao please.Thanks

Can you get lost? like forreal?
If I want you to talk to me ill tell it. If not? You back off.

Personly i admire indian tiger ...he is like street smart motherfucker

Напишано од Goblin, 23.10.2014 at 09:09

Personly i admire indian tiger ...he is like street smart motherfucker

Напишано од Waffel, 23.10.2014 at 08:55

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 23.10.2014 at 08:53

Напишано од Waffel, 23.10.2014 at 02:16

Напишано од Permamuted, 22.10.2014 at 16:05

Who is true indian anyway, what was his original name? everything indian tiger does is a scam, scam duels with altered victory conditions, fake duels that are just normal 1v1s and a signature which he encourages you to click so he can get more sp.

Behave?
How is this not personal attacking? Tell me pls. If I said anything like this about you, I would get you and khal crying 24/7 about personal attack this, bitching that.
He isnt doing anything against the rules.

Back off Lao please.Thanks

Can you get lost? like forreal?
If I want you to talk to me ill tell it. If not? You back off.

nails in kitty.not cute

You kids is cray doe

Напишано од clovis1122, 22.10.2014 at 16:22

Напишано од Tundy, 22.10.2014 at 16:20

Напишано од clovis1122, 22.10.2014 at 16:14

Напишано од Tundy, 22.10.2014 at 13:14

Oh look, rank matters afterall
Clovis rember?

Knowledge matter, not rank.

Knowledge is gain by experience, which in turn depends on time.
rank has a direct relationship with experience.

And so is forum. If you know how to use forums you can learn in 2 games what took 2 years to a player for discover.

Interesting no? The knowledge is on forum.

how many players randomly find the forums on their first day and read about it, i didnt discover forums until i joined spart and you in syndicate and spart told me about it, realistically there is no push from the game to show that there is a forum out there waiting for players to click on, so naturally unless a player is bored (which new to a game kinda hard to be bored) they wont find forums and in particular know what to look for.

Напишано од Waffel, 23.10.2014 at 02:16

Напишано од Permamuted, 22.10.2014 at 16:05

Who is true indian anyway, what was his original name? everything indian tiger does is a scam, scam duels with altered victory conditions, fake duels that are just normal 1v1s and a signature which he encourages you to click so he can get more sp.

Behave?
How is this not personal attacking? Tell me pls. If I said anything like this about you, I would get you and khal crying 24/7 about personal attack this, bitching that.
He isnt doing anything against the rules.

this is honestly the best post waffel has ever posted

Напишано од Waffel, 23.10.2014 at 02:16

Напишано од Permamuted, 22.10.2014 at 16:05

Who is true indian anyway, what was his original name? everything indian tiger does is a scam, scam duels with altered victory conditions, fake duels that are just normal 1v1s and a signature which he encourages you to click so he can get more sp.

Behave?
How is this not personal attacking? Tell me pls. If I said anything like this about you, I would get you and khal crying 24/7 about personal attack this, bitching that.
He isnt doing anything against the rules.

khals right back off, im tired of seeing your unresolved dramas from the other thread spilling over everywhere else. My post here has absolutely zero relevance to our previous arguments. Look at this in the recordbook thread. You're like a dog with a bone.

Напишано од Waffel, 23.10.2014 at 02:03

Oh god... YOU the person exploiting every rule we had for the past years to make your extra turn 1 walls and rewallingcraps, are talking to me about exploiting? god... I have thanked Chess already, so Idk what you are talking about.

i get it, i've heard all your other opinions, Laochra always thinks hes right, laochras changing all the strats, laochra is controlling and manipulating the mods, laochra uses faggy walls and plays sm ukraine, laochra doesnt listen to me, laochra accuses me of personal attacks, laochra is part of illyria, illyria use faggy tactics, laochra is faggy.

you can have your opinions, but stop responding in every thread i post with the same bs over and over. if you want a laochra vs waffel thread make one, ill deal with all your drama.

Напишано од Permamuted, 22.10.2014 at 07:22

Seems to me that w4r got hit with karma, but as i said regarding enforcing this in some official rules.

Напишано од Desu, 15.10.2014 at 15:45

this is not the last youve of this argument, not by a longshot. and im not referring to me, or goblin or even waffel. these debates and arguments will continue to appear in various forms between others until something is done.

I never complained about this. I just did what I had to do and win my part of the cw

Напишано од Waffel, 22.10.2014 at 07:54

Напишано од Permamuted, 22.10.2014 at 07:22

Seems to me that w4r got hit with karma, but as i said regarding enforcing this in some official rules.

Напишано од Desu, 15.10.2014 at 15:45

this is not the last youve of this argument, not by a longshot. and im not referring to me, or goblin or even waffel. these debates and arguments will continue to appear in various forms between others until something is done.

Huh what? I dont get it o_o
What did W4r say? ;o

nothing.
I don't cry over stupid shit, I win cw's.

Напишано од Permamuted, 24.10.2014 at 00:50

Напишано од Waffel, 23.10.2014 at 02:16

Напишано од Permamuted, 22.10.2014 at 16:05

Who is true indian anyway, what was his original name? everything indian tiger does is a scam, scam duels with altered victory conditions, fake duels that are just normal 1v1s and a signature which he encourages you to click so he can get more sp.

Behave?
How is this not personal attacking? Tell me pls. If I said anything like this about you, I would get you and khal crying 24/7 about personal attack this, bitching that.
He isnt doing anything against the rules.

khals right back off, im tired of seeing your unresolved dramas from the other thread spilling over everywhere else. My post here has absolutely zero relevance to our previous arguments. Look at this in the recordbook thread. You're like a dog with a bone.

Напишано од Waffel, 23.10.2014 at 02:03

Oh god... YOU the person exploiting every rule we had for the past years to make your extra turn 1 walls and rewallingcraps, are talking to me about exploiting? god... I have thanked Chess already, so Idk what you are talking about.

i get it, i've heard all your other opinions, Laochra always thinks hes right, laochras changing all the strats, laochra is controlling and manipulating the mods, laochra uses faggy walls and plays sm ukraine, laochra doesnt listen to me, laochra accuses me of personal attacks, laochra is part of illyria, illyria use faggy tactics, laochra is faggy.

you can have your opinions, but stop responding in every thread i post with the same bs over and over. if you want a laochra vs waffel thread make one, ill deal with all your drama.

Excuse me? You do the exact same thing, as counts for many other players.
You insulted this guy, called him a fraud and a scammer. Only because he did something which is''low'' in your eyes?
We also told you things you and (illyria) do seems also ''low'' in our eyes, and what do we get as answer? :'' Who cares? we aren't breaking the rules, its ''legit'' ''
Like I said, if some1 does the exact same thing but only in other situation you'll get mad and calling names, but if its you, you try to talk it all good and allright.

Alright im adressing all this one line at a time otherwise you will never give this a rest.

Напишано од Waffel, 23.10.2014 at 02:03

Oh god... YOU the person exploiting every rule we had for the past years to make your extra turn 1 walls and rewallingcraps, are talking to me about exploiting? god... I have thanked Chess already, so Idk what you are talking about.

What are these rules that i am exploiting. The only accepted rule is no first turn wf. YOU are the one exploiting this rule because of your dislike of double walls. I have exploited nothing. We've discussed all this already, why arent you listening and repeating the same stuff over and over. Also stop using exaggeration to reinforce your points, i've played this game for 1 year, not years.

Напишано од Waffel, 24.10.2014 at 02:06

Excuse me? You do the exact same thing, as counts for many other players.
You insulted this guy, called him a fraud and a scammer. Only because he did something which is''low'' in your eyes?
We also told you things you and (illyria) do seems also ''low'' in our eyes, and what do we get as answer? :'' Who cares? we aren't breaking the rules, its ''legit'' ''
Like I said, if some1 does the exact same thing but only in other situation you'll get mad and calling names, but if its you, you try to talk it all good and allright.

No i do not do the exact same thing.

but i did insult this guy, and yes i would call him a scammer, this is my based on my own opinion, but this is completely irrelevant to anything me and you have discussed as there are no rules preventing me from labelling him as such.

Illyyria havent broken any rules. The only rule we have is the widely accepted "no first turn wf" which you exploited for your own personal gain. You broke the rules, illyria did not. You may bitch all you want about how double walls and rewalling are low, but they are legal. First turn wfs however are not.

Note how unpopular your opinion on double walls is. You and goblin have received minimal support for your views, many people dismissing them as ridiculous, particularly since double walls have existed forever. It is only since this buisness with evol and w4r, that you suddenly took it as justification to start first turn wf'ing due to your dislike of them.

Well good luck to you waffel, see how many other people you can get away with first turn wallfucking. Note that if you did to me what syrian did in that cw on a scenario, the mapmaker would banlist you. They asked for that feature to deal with your kind.

Напишано од Permamuted, 24.10.2014 at 03:42

Alright im adressing all this one line at a time otherwise you will never give this a rest.

Напишано од Waffel, 23.10.2014 at 02:03

Oh god... YOU the person exploiting every rule we had for the past years to make your extra turn 1 walls and rewallingcraps, are talking to me about exploiting? god... I have thanked Chess already, so Idk what you are talking about.

What are these rules that i am exploiting. The only accepted rule is no first turn wf. YOU are the one exploiting this rule because of your dislike of double walls. I have exploited nothing. We've discussed all this already, why arent you listening and repeating the same stuff over and over. Also stop using exaggeration to reinforce your points, i've played this game for 1 year, not years.

Напишано од Waffel, 24.10.2014 at 02:06

Excuse me? You do the exact same thing, as counts for many other players.
You insulted this guy, called him a fraud and a scammer. Only because he did something which is''low'' in your eyes?
We also told you things you and (illyria) do seems also ''low'' in our eyes, and what do we get as answer? :'' Who cares? we aren't breaking the rules, its ''legit'' ''
Like I said, if some1 does the exact same thing but only in other situation you'll get mad and calling names, but if its you, you try to talk it all good and allright.

No i do not do the exact same thing.

but i did insult this guy, and yes i would call him a scammer, this is my based on my own opinion, but this is completely irrelevant to anything me and you have discussed as there are no rules preventing me from labelling him as such.

Illyyria havent broken any rules. The only rule we have is the widely accepted "no first turn wf" which you exploited for your own personal gain. You broke the rules, illyria did not. You may bitch all you want about how double walls and rewalling are low, but they are legal. First turn wfs however are not.

Note how unpopular your opinion on double walls is. You and goblin have received minimal support for your views, many people dismissing them as ridiculous, particularly since double walls have existed forever. It is only since this buisness with evol and w4r, that you suddenly took it as justification to start first turn wf'ing due to your dislike of them.

Well good luck to you waffel, see how many other people you can get away with first turn wallfucking. Note that if you did to me what syrian did in that cw on a scenario, the mapmaker would banlist you. They asked for that feature to deal with your kind.

Eh okey, you talk about things being irrelevant?
Then here we go:

First of all,

I never said illyria broke a rule, I said the things you do are considered by alot of people ''low/cheap'' thats an fact, Since all the spectators say its lame/noob when you guys do it in cw's.
The opinion here is that they consider it low/cheap.

First turns wf's arent legal or illegal. Like you said in other thread, '' like w4r and you said, there is no rule for the WF turn 1, but its respected by alot of people'' I also said that I agree with that. So I dont know why you brought this up?
And I took it as justification because I warned you guys, and you guys simply ignored it because nah, he wouldn't do it. But after I done it the hell unleashed.

Also ''note how unpopular your opinion is on double walling'', seriously? you are basically saying mine and goblins opinions doesnt matter all?, all because you simply disagree with it?, and reffering to the people who commented on that page >Tunder/clovis/blackshark/khaleesi
[edit] You are also reffering to people to support your statements? Instead of coming with an arguement against it. You say minimal support? when does having less support means its a lie? Does this makes sense at all?
For example, in china the people who live there have nothing to say, they need to listen to the emperors. When one of the civilians say, the emperor raped my child and told me I couldn't do anything against it, so laochra you are gonna say to her '' You have no support so that means you are lying.''? In reallife people believe which has the most power, or influence. It doesn't always have to be like that, how many breaking news have you seen that police people were corrupt and stuff.

>Tunder just caused drama because he likes it, he didn't read any of the posts's and you cant denied that. But you simply will back him up, because he agree with you, even tho he took the whole subject ouf of context. (like khal does with you).
>Blackshark did nothing but just '' blabla i support tunder crap'''' I dont look suprised.. they are from the same clan.
> Clovis tried to turn around the subject and started about the ''deffinition about rewall'', ''and biggwall isnt rewall so stop calling it that way'', which was also not really near the subject off the thread.
> Khal just insulted us because we were argueing with u. He did not brough anything up to the subject and only came with ''stop cry blabla''

If you reffer to these people as ''support'' we can ask any friend of yours/mine/their, to ''support/disagree'' which will lead to bias, and nothing.

And the double walls were existed forever yes, but people didnt use them for EVERY CW THEY PLAY, people didnt BASE THEIR EXPANSION ON IT. and most of all, people didnt use them on turn 1 to gain an advantage of not losing capital wall turn 2. Most of those ''double wall biggwall from old days'' were made mid game, at turn 4/5+ etc. Not from the beginning, like I also stated in my subject, my whole thread + opinions + arguements were reffered to the biggwall turn 1 and 2.

Also, talking about scenario and that the banlist is reffered to ''my kind of people'' is verry insulting and offensive. You talk about me being all personal attacking and insulting.
In scenario people WF eachother every turn, even turn 1. Due because lack of place for the walls/countries, since most of the scenarios are all sticked to eachother and because most of those scenarios always have low ranks which dont know anything about the no turn 1 WF rule, and I am repeating again, there is no such RULE as no turn 1 WF rule, its a deal competitive players made between clans/players.
You guys didnt ask any of the clans if they were fine what you were doing with these biggwalls.. even when they said stop with it, you kept going on. So please dont come with this crap.

Напишано од Permamuted, 24.10.2014 at 03:42

Note how unpopular your opinion on double walls is. You and goblin have received minimal support for your views, many people dismissing them as ridiculous, particularly since double walls have existed forever. It is only since this buisness with evol and w4r, that you suddenly took it as justification to start first turn wf'ing due to your dislike of them.

You are seriously pissing me off Laochra ...never have i or waffel said a thing against double walls.

You are not using double walls ...thats the problem, so dont give us anymore of your crap.

My words have been twisted, and i was attacked in big wall topic on things i never said by you and your "many people" ...it was excatly ad hominem, things pointed against me personly and had nothing to do with what i said.

In one point when others were doing that i was about to say in that topic "from now on im only discussing this with laochra" because i thought of you as a smart individual, but then i have seen one of your posts, mocking me.

The end.

Напишано од Goblin, 24.10.2014 at 04:31

Напишано од Permamuted, 24.10.2014 at 03:42

Note how unpopular your opinion on double walls is. You and goblin have received minimal support for your views, many people dismissing them as ridiculous, particularly since double walls have existed forever. It is only since this buisness with evol and w4r, that you suddenly took it as justification to start first turn wf'ing due to your dislike of them.

You are seriously pissing me off Laochra ...never have i or waffel said a thing against double walls.

You are not using double walls ...thats the problem, so dont give us anymore of your crap.

My words have been twisted, and i was attacked in big wall topic on things i never said by you and your "many people" ...it was excatly ad hominem, things pointed against me personly and had nothing to do with what i said.

In one point when others were doing that i was about to say in that topic "from now on im only discussing this with laochra" because i thought of you as a smart individual, but then i have seen one of your posts, mocking me.

The end.

What he means with double walls he means the biggwall turn 1 and inner wall turn 2 I think.
Atleast I answered back with that in my mind as reffering to that biggwall.

Напишано од Quantum027, 24.10.2014 at 00:16

how many players randomly find the forums on their first day and read about it, i didnt discover forums until i joined spart and you in syndicate and spart told me about it, realistically there is no push from the game to show that there is a forum out there waiting for players to click on, so naturally unless a player is bored (which new to a game kinda hard to be bored) they wont find forums and in particular know what to look for.

Which lead us to this:

> Where is most of the AW's knowledge? The forum.
>Where are the player with knowledge about the forums? in competitive clans.
> Can a RP player (exept me of couse) join a competitive clans? no. Not even in evoL.

If you know where is the forum, you already have a massive amount of knowledges. The game need to implement a tour which teach the user to use the forums. And also make the forum more noticeable in website...

Exactly an update of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8W1gYqR8ag

Напишано од clovis1122, 24.10.2014 at 04:53

Напишано од Quantum027, 24.10.2014 at 00:16

how many players randomly find the forums on their first day and read about it, i didnt discover forums until i joined spart and you in syndicate and spart told me about it, realistically there is no push from the game to show that there is a forum out there waiting for players to click on, so naturally unless a player is bored (which new to a game kinda hard to be bored) they wont find forums and in particular know what to look for.

Which lead us to this:

> Where is most of the AW's knowledge? The forum.
>Where are the player with knowledge about the forums? in competitive clans.
> Can a RP player (exept me of couse) join a competitive clans? no. Not even in evoL.

If you know where is the forum, you already have a massive amount of knowledges. The game need to implement a tour which teach the user to use the forums. And also make the forum more noticeable in website...

This is complete bullshit..

Yes I agree with the aw''s knowlegde on the forums, but ALOT OF CLANS dont POST ALL THEIR SHIT IN MAIN LOBBIES LIKE YOU DO. Aint called clans for a reason. I learnt everything I know outside the forums, every strategy, every playstyle, every player, and I am 100% sure almost 80% of AW learnt it outside of forums. (main forums, not the clan forums)
Forums didnt used to be a place people bitching at eachother about this strat and that.
When people joined a clan, they got trained by the people who knew most about it, or who just liked to train someone.

Evol has enough people who used to play RP or even still do, so saying RP players cant join a competitive clan is a big lie, and insulting since evoL is a well doing competitve clan. And saying it has noobs in the clan is also 1 big mistake.
Evol trained great people who are in several clans now, the players in evoL when they were low rank were also trained by another clan, etc. Thats how revolution goes..
There is nothing wrong with RP players, only the SP farm that leads them to higher ranks.

Напишано од Waffel, 24.10.2014 at 04:48

What he means with double walls he means the biggwall turn 1 and inner wall turn 2 I think.
Atleast I answered back with that in my mind as reffering to that biggwall.

I know what he means ...but thats not the definition of a double wall.

Double wall means there are two damn walls ...not there will be a wall there next turn.

And for fuck sake, one of my last posts there was "i wouldnt mind if you just leave 3 units in your cap to show me that you had the intention of making the inner wall"

Response to that? ...no one has even seen that, but continued to bash me with no response on my words, but only personal attacks.

Thats not debating, bash my argumment, responde directly to my argumment and not me personly because you dislike me or based on something i said a year ago.

Напишано од clovis1122, 24.10.2014 at 05:04

Напишано од Waffel, 24.10.2014 at 04:59

Evol has enough people who used to play RP or even still do, so saying RP players cant join a competitive clan is a big lie, and insulting since evoL is a well doing competitve clan.

Noob: Can I join evoL?
Mr_Own_U: Sure, but stop playing RP.

Waffel stop talking without knowledge... you are making youself look ridiculous.

Excuse me?
When did MOU say this at all?
Is this your statement?, because it seems like u just made this up.

And please dont talk about me making my self look ridiculous..
you are the one jumping into threads and making no sense at all, and when people say something about it or simply showed you proof and you know you are fuckedup because you have nothing back. You simply delete all your comments and posts...

Напишано од Goblin, 24.10.2014 at 05:07

Напишано од Waffel, 24.10.2014 at 04:48

What he means with double walls he means the biggwall turn 1 and inner wall turn 2 I think.
Atleast I answered back with that in my mind as reffering to that biggwall.

I know what he means ...but thats not the definition of a double wall.

Double wall means there are two damn walls ...not there will be a wall there next turn.

And for fuck sake, one of my last posts there was "i wouldnt mind if you just leave 3 units in your cap to show me that you had the intention of making the inner wall"

Response to that? ...no one has even seen that, but continued to bash me with no response on my words, but only personal attacks.

Thats not debating, bash my argumment, responde directly to my argumment and not me personly because you dislike me or based on something i said a year ago.

I know.. but this is obviously the way how some people actually try to argue.. its ridiculous.

Напишано од clovis1122, 24.10.2014 at 05:11

Напишано од Waffel, 24.10.2014 at 05:08

And please dont talk about me making my self look ridiculous..
you are the one jumping into threads and making no sense at all, and when people say something about it or simply showed you proof and you know you are fuckedup because you have nothing back. You simply delete all your comments and posts...

ok, search for just one evoL player that still play RP nowadays.

And ofc I delete them. I dont like to spam trash and wall blocks like some players.

Why would I search for people? You are the one making false accusations about mou saying no RP.
Go find your proof self, im not doing your job. Also im pretty sure the RP's mou accepted have turned into 3v3 players, not because he said NO EVOL if you play RP, but basically just showed them the 3v3 world. The thing that everybody does to low ranks in clans. You had it in ULP, I had it in dalmati pups. Others had it in their clans.

And the people playing RP arent noob at all, they learn making alot of different walls. They learn how to play on bigscaled maps with much reinforcements. Just to bad about the 1000000% income and the no spread rules and way to OP troops.

Напишано од Waffel, 24.10.2014 at 04:21

First of all,

I never said illyria broke a rule, I said the things you do are considered by alot of people ''low/cheap'' thats an fact, Since all the spectators say its lame/noob when you guys do it in cw's.

You accused me in the atwar record book of exploiting rules for years. You made a point of stating illyrias justification for rewalling is that "we are not breaking any rules". They only thing you haven't explicitly stated, is that illyria broke rules.

Напишано од Waffel, 24.10.2014 at 04:21

First turns wf's arent legal or unlegal. Like you said in other thread, '' like w4r and you said, there is no rule for the WF turn 1, but its respected by alot of people'' I also said that I agree with that. So I dont know why you brought this up?
And I took it as justification because I warned you guys, and you guys simply ignored it because nah, he wouldn't do it. But after I done it the hell unleashed.

Why wouldnt you know why i would bring this up? you keep mentioning rule breaking, so why did you accuse me of exploiting rules for years? i have done nothing of the sort. I havent even exploited any official agreement/etiquette in my gameplay. Why would you come to another thread and make such a vague false accusation?

Напишано од Waffel, 24.10.2014 at 04:21

And I took it as justification because I warned you guys, and you guys simply ignored it because nah, he wouldn't do it. But after I done it the hell unleashed.

Where did you warn us? did you explicitly state your intention to wf turn 1 to counter double walls? Its one thing mentioning or threatening to wf turn 1, its another actually doing it in a cw, in my 250 cws, syrians the first person to deliberately wf me or my clanmates.

Напишано од Waffel, 24.10.2014 at 04:21

Also ''note how unpopular your opinion is on double walling'', seriously? you are basically saying mine and goblins opinions doesnt matter all?, all because you simply disagree with it?, and reffering to the people who commented on that page >Tunder/clovis/blackshark/khaleesi

>Tunder just caused drama because he likes it, he didn't read any of the posts's and you cant denied that. But you simply will back him up, because he agree with you, even tho he took the whole subject ouf of context. (like khal does with you).
>Blackshark did nothing but just '' blabla i support tunder crap'''' I dont look suprised.. they are from the same clan.
> Clovis tried to turn around the subject and started about the ''deffinition about rewall'', ''and biggwall isnt rewall so stop calling it that way'', which was also not really near the subject off the thread.
> Khal just insulted us because we were argueing with u. He did not brough anything up to the subject and only came with ''stop cry blabla''

If you reffer to these people as ''support'' we can ask any friend of yours/mine/their, to ''support/disagree'' which will lead to bias, and nothing.

Minusseven and Marcus also condemned your stance against double walls and they most certainly would not consider me a friend. As did others but im not going back reading through that thread.

In spectator chat during that game trollface innate and mauzer condemned syrians move as "cheap" and "a bitch move". Desu has stated his clan will respect double walls even if accidentally opened. Illyria have no issue with them.

bearing this in mind this effectively sets the majority of the competitive community against your actions. If you performed the same in a scenario you would find yourself banlisted for being a wf'er. So yes, you and goblin should very much consider yourselves in the minority on this. Its not just "laochra and his friends".

Напишано од Waffel, 24.10.2014 at 04:21

Also, talking about scenario and that the banlist is reffered to ''my kind of people'' is verry insulting and offensive. You talk about me being all personal attacking and insulting.
In scenario people WF eachother every turn, even turn 1. Due because lack of place for the walls/countries, since most of the scenarios are all sticked to eachother and because most of those scenarios always have low ranks which dont know anything about the no turn 1 WF rule, and I am repeating again, there is no such RULE as no turn 1 WF rule, its a deal competitive players made between clans/players.
You guys didnt ask any of the clans if they were fine what you were doing with these biggwalls.. even when they said stop with it, you kept going on. So please dont come with this crap.

"Your kind of people" refers to people who wf first turn, whatever the reason. How is this offensive? Did you or did you not state you would wf turn 1 to counter double walls?

This is not about accidental wfs due to close country proximity, this is about deliberate wfs turn 1, as you and goblin resolved to do.

Напишано од Waffel, 24.10.2014 at 04:21

You guys didnt ask any of the clans if they were fine what you were doing with these biggwalls.. even when they said stop with it, you kept going on. So please dont come with this crap.

Why would we ask? these tactics have existed for as long as i have played aw, you are the first to have issues with them.

Напишано од Goblin, 24.10.2014 at 04:31

You are seriously pissing me off Laochra ...never have i or waffel said a thing against double walls.

You are not using double walls ...thats the problem, so dont give us anymore of your crap.

My words have been twisted, and i was attacked in big wall topic on things i never said by you and your "many people" ...it was excatly ad hominem, things pointed against me personly and had nothing to do with what i said.

In one point when others were doing that i was about to say in that topic "from now on im only discussing this with laochra" because i thought of you as a smart individual, but then i have seen one of your posts, mocking me.

The end.

You and waffel have argued that your issue with these walls is the unfairness of not having to defend your cap until turn 4. Do you deny this being the case?

So what difference is there between a double wall turn 1, or a big circle wall where the other player walls within it turn 2? Its achieves the same effect, yet you feel this is acceptable. Given your previous arguments against rewalling and big wall rewalls why is this acceptable? What reasoning are you applying?

Desu explained it from a technical standpoint, but the reasoning you applied for bigwall rewalling being unfair covers doublewalling too. And you stated your intention to first turn wf users of the latter.

nobody has twisted your words at all.

Напишано од Waffel, 24.10.2014 at 05:17

Why would I search for people? You are the one making false accusations about mou saying no RP.

Well ok, my statement still stands regardless if you want to search or not.

You didnt provide us proof, waffel. Until you show the players, you are wrong.

Oh and sorry for tell you this, but 99% of my knowledge comes from own playing or public forum, not from a selfish clan.

Have a nice day (:

Напишано од clovis1122, 24.10.2014 at 05:37

Напишано од Waffel, 24.10.2014 at 05:17

Why would I search for people? You are the one making false accusations about mou saying no RP.

Well ok, my statement still stands regardless if you want to search or not.

You didnt provide us proof, waffel. Until you show the players, you are wrong.

Oh and sorry for tell you this, but 99% of my knowledge comes from own playing or public forum, not from a selfish clan.

Have a nice day (:

LOL? you are the one not providing proof, you say mou said no evol if you play RP, thats an false accusation. Dont make those accusations if you cant proof it.
Stop turning everything around everytime clovis, you do this every single time, even when we argue with who we should invite for the clan and who not. If i say no, 10 mins later you say I said yes and u were the one saying no.
I seriously think this all happens because you dont understand 50% of all the english being spoken here.

Напишано од Permamuted, 24.10.2014 at 05:19

Напишано од Waffel, 24.10.2014 at 04:21

First of all,

I never said illyria broke a rule, I said the things you do are considered by alot of people ''low/cheap'' thats an fact, Since all the spectators say its lame/noob when you guys do it in cw's.

You accused me in the atwar record book of exploiting rules for years. You made a point of stating illyrias justification for rewalling is that "we are not breaking any rules". They only thing you haven't explicitly stated, is that illyria broke rules.

Напишано од Waffel, 24.10.2014 at 04:21

First turns wf's arent legal or unlegal. Like you said in other thread, '' like w4r and you said, there is no rule for the WF turn 1, but its respected by alot of people'' I also said that I agree with that. So I dont know why you brought this up?
And I took it as justification because I warned you guys, and you guys simply ignored it because nah, he wouldn't do it. But after I done it the hell unleashed.

Why wouldnt you know why i would bring this up? you keep mentioning rule breaking, so why did you accuse me of exploiting rules for years? i have done nothing of the sort. I havent even exploited any official agreement/etiquette in my gameplay. Why would you come to another thread and make such a vague false accusation?

Напишано од Waffel, 24.10.2014 at 04:21

And I took it as justification because I warned you guys, and you guys simply ignored it because nah, he wouldn't do it. But after I done it the hell unleashed.

Where did you warn us? did you explicitly state your intention to wf turn 1 to counter double walls? Its one thing mentioning or threatening to wf turn 1, its another actually doing it in a cw, in my 250 cws, syrians the first person to deliberately wf me or my clanmates.

Напишано од Waffel, 24.10.2014 at 04:21

Also ''note how unpopular your opinion is on double walling'', seriously? you are basically saying mine and goblins opinions doesnt matter all?, all because you simply disagree with it?, and reffering to the people who commented on that page >Tunder/clovis/blackshark/khaleesi

>Tunder just caused drama because he likes it, he didn't read any of the posts's and you cant denied that. But you simply will back him up, because he agree with you, even tho he took the whole subject ouf of context. (like khal does with you).
>Blackshark did nothing but just '' blabla i support tunder crap'''' I dont look suprised.. they are from the same clan.
> Clovis tried to turn around the subject and started about the ''deffinition about rewall'', ''and biggwall isnt rewall so stop calling it that way'', which was also not really near the subject off the thread.
> Khal just insulted us because we were argueing with u. He did not brough anything up to the subject and only came with ''stop cry blabla''

If you reffer to these people as ''support'' we can ask any friend of yours/mine/their, to ''support/disagree'' which will lead to bias, and nothing.

Minusseven and Marcus also condemned your stance against double walls and they most certainly would not consider me a friend. As did others but im not going back reading through that thread.

In spectator chat during that game trollface innate and mauzer condemned syrians move as "cheap" and "a bitch move". Desu has stated his clan will respect double walls even if accidentally opened. Illyria have no issue with them.

bearing this in mind this effectively sets the majority of the competitive community against your actions. If you performed the same in a scenario you would find yourself banlisted for being a wf'er. So yes, you and goblin should very much consider yourselves in the minority on this. Its not just "laochra and his friends".

Напишано од Waffel, 24.10.2014 at 04:21

Also, talking about scenario and that the banlist is reffered to ''my kind of people'' is verry insulting and offensive. You talk about me being all personal attacking and insulting.
In scenario people WF eachother every turn, even turn 1. Due because lack of place for the walls/countries, since most of the scenarios are all sticked to eachother and because most of those scenarios always have low ranks which dont know anything about the no turn 1 WF rule, and I am repeating again, there is no such RULE as no turn 1 WF rule, its a deal competitive players made between clans/players.
You guys didnt ask any of the clans if they were fine what you were doing with these biggwalls.. even when they said stop with it, you kept going on. So please dont come with this crap.

"Your kind of people" refers to people who wf first turn, whatever the reason. How is this offensive? Did you or did you not state you would wf turn 1 to counter double walls?

This is not about accidental wfs due to close country proximity, this is about deliberate wfs turn 1, as you and goblin resolved to do.

Напишано од Waffel, 24.10.2014 at 04:21

You guys didnt ask any of the clans if they were fine what you were doing with these biggwalls.. even when they said stop with it, you kept going on. So please dont come with this crap.

Why would we ask? these tactics have existed for as long as i have played aw, you are the first to have issues with them.

What do you call it then besides exploiting the rules? You guys use something that will 100% effects people gameplay, the only counter to it is using WF turn 1. I also explained this million times to you, i seriously wonder why you still dont get it?
You guys expect us to be fine and when we arent you guys are saying ''we aint doing anything against the rules''
I didnt say illyria broke rules for the 50th times. Stop repeating that I do say this or whatever.
I did say mention about the exploiting the other thread too, but this shows that you actually dont read everything and just hop in.

Yes I did say I would WF, and I would do it anytime soon. Like I said you are exploiting the rules by using this wall and when people complain about it, you justfy yourself by saying ''its legit move so dont cry'', this is selfish.

Ok I forgot about minus and jared,main reason because I think was because they didnt really add something that wasn't said already.
You also ''forgot or ''ignored'' bonkers, and I guess you did because simply he disagreed with you, you only called the names of the people who did agree with you. Which shows how the way you make your ''legit'' arguements.
Why would goblin and I consider ourselfs as minority? Because the people (and some of them never play 3v3's or any competitive games, i think they know themself who I am reffering to.) are saying that we are wrong? Only person who made atleast sense from all of them was you, because yes you talked around some of the things, but you didn't go off-topic, you didnt use other threads to prove your statements. like clovis and tunder.
Its becomming an common sense lao that you never try to make an solution but only stand on your own points and never accept others

My proof about mentioning that I would start WF'ing is here, I have also said it multiple times in the game it self, in clanwars/spectatorchats/ even PR.
I even explained how I would WF so it wouldn't harm standard triangle walls. As you can see I am caring about if I wrong guessed it wouldn't harm.

Напишано од Waffel, 07.10.2014 at 03:53

Seriiously you complain about this? ....
Since illyria is made, all you guys do (mostly you) is complaining about the things what happen to you.
You guys expect us to be fine with the rewall,bugg,glitches,now the inner 2 turn wal..
I am going to WF the people who use this inner 2 turn wall. The no WF is meant for turn 1. By doing this wf I am making sure you are not able to inner wall turn 2. If I wf the bigger wall, you cant wall your capital turn 2 without getting wf'ed or getting harmed. My wf is only meant for the bigger walls, and will put my unit far enough so it wont wf a normal triangle wall. Like it or not, but you guys (mostly from illyria) are pushing the people who play against/with you to play lame. I don't like to lower my self to this kind of lame strategy.

Dont quote me again with: nice personal and attacking again. Because I am not.

Напишано од Permamuted, 24.10.2014 at 05:19

Desu has stated his clan will respect double walls even if accidentally opened. Illyria have no issue with them.

Just clarifying what I said in the other thread, I said my clan would respect double walls if accidentally opened and even if intentionally opened, as long as you have actually made a wall around your capital too. If for some reason a capital wall does not complete itself all the way around, I'm sure the rest of my clan has no problems placing a unit beside a capital so their capital wall isn't remade. If there is a capital wall and a bigwall all around, I won't be telling anyone to break that capital wall and to just think of the bigwall as existing there if broken.

I'm not going to enter this argument. In fact, you guys really should keep it inside that 10 page thread. Stop spreading it around, stay in your containment thread.

I have made the official stance clear on the first page of this thread, and some discussion has been allowed. But derailment of the thread makes it serve no purpose anymore. Moderators/administrators will not change game results/stats because of dishonest actions that are not actually against the rules. Use self-moderation, tell others about actions like this thread, and allow some kind of response. This has happened.

Closed.