Unleashed you are evil, politicians are on our side.

Напишано од Tirpitz406, 10.07.2015 at 16:09

to everything you state as "sources" there are thousands of articles stating the opposite, you just are wrong

No there aren't. It's agreed across all political platforms from social democrats, anarchists, libertarians to neo conservatives that the Clinton surplus is a fabricated myth. There are little to no unbiased economic or Phd sources which will support the Clinton surplus myth. Numbers aren't opinionated.

Напишано од Tirpitz406, 10.07.2015 at 16:09

you just are wrong

Because what I say doesn't suit your bullshit narrative. You are manipulated by slogans.

Напишано од Tirpitz406, 10.07.2015 at 16:09

but as i cant convince you to belive the opposite, when i give you sources,diagrams of the NASDAQ and more

Spending money to cover costs and then moving those numbers around to 'appear' profitable is not a surplus. It is a deficit. The tech boom made money, more money went in social security trusts, Clinton admin increased spending and used those extra social security savings to pay for those costs. That is not a surplus.

Напишано од Tirpitz406, 10.07.2015 at 16:09

i'll just give up, let you have your victory and save hundreds of hours that would go wasted typing random comments nobody reads anyways

Whatever

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

First of all Sweden is NOT worst than Usa, common lol. I know you dont really believe that and i will give you the opportunity to take it back and say you didnt literally mean that, but you said it to emphasize your point. Otherwise prove it.

HID index disagrees. This UN report states it all.

Наводници:

According to UN projections, Sweden will be a much poorer country by 2030, much worse than what anyone in the Swedish government indicates.

The UN report HDI (Human Development Index) predicts a significant decrease in Swedish prosperity, unlike their Nordic neighbors, who will retain their top positions and even strengthen them globally in the long run.

In 2010 Sweden had the 15th place in the HDI rankings but according to UN forecasts, Sweden will be #25 in 2015, and in 2030 on the 45th place.

Sweden is one of few countries with such a sharp deterioration from what it had in 2010.

Even Greece, which today is more or less bankrupt, but will be on 13th place by 2030.

A bankrupt Greece will be better off than Sweden.

"Sweden to become a Third World Country by 2030, according to UN"
http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.454/sweden-to-become-a-third-world-country-by-2030-according-to-un.html

I say what I mean and I can always back it up. Despite how bad the USA is, Sweden is worse. All the problems in the US are amplified by many times in Sweden.

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

education. Scandinavian countries and Finland (best) have 100% literacy rates, always score the highest to all studies and their education is free (wowe) and accesible to all ( double wowe). Everybody can go to whatever university he/she/it wants and be a doctor or a scientist or whatever. And that is why they have progressed as people. Do we agree on this?

Finland is a strict conservative nation but that is changing. As I said, many of these nations were basically national socialist in most of their policies. The introduction of progressivism caused deterioration. Sweden has adopted progressivism far more than the rest.

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

heres a recent study
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/oct/08/oecd-countries-numeracy-literacy-high-skills

Now as for social, equality, healthcare, growth, standard of living and other statistics Scandinavian countries top them all off.

They are all white, Nordic and up until recently, very socially conservative. I don't think you understand what a National Socialist is. All the economic polices are similar, just not the social ones.

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

In The Legatum Prosperity Index, last 5 years, Sweden, Norway, Denmak and Finland are the leaders, always in top 10. Canada also. Iceland always 10-15. As for Usa and Uk, mediocrity, usually at 10-15.

A lot has changed in the past 5 years. Sweden is suicidally progressive.

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

If you take a look at it more closely you will see that Scandinavian and Canada manage to score high on development and income, while being the leaders in every single other stat and everything regarding human rights, equality and societal development, while the US only has as high income and HDI but turns to shit on everything else.

Yes, yes and social policies changed. The UN report shows that these indexes for Sweden are dropping sharply.

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

as for fertility i loled again. only a facist would use "fertility rate" as a stat with any kind of value. As you can see in the following list

Only a Fascist? No, try an economist. We have better healthcare and people live longer so who will take care of the ever growing older population? As the older population continues to grow, the younger population dwindles which puts an even greater burden on them as they have to work harder to keep up the same quality of life. Scandinavian fertility rates are BELOW replacement level. It's not a case of keeping the same numbers, they aren't replacing their numbers. This problem is HUGE in Japan.

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

a. all the leading countries are third world. I doubt thats a coinsidence. You want high fertility rates? Exotic Somalia is waiting for you and i hear the weather is great in Liberia this time of year.

Wanting a sustainable replacement birth rate isn't the same as having third world birth rates.

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

b. The normal average is 2. Usa has 2 and Scandinavian countries have what , 1,80+ ? Most advanced countries range at that number, the difference is not that big of a deal.

It's below replacement. This is one of the fundamental problems with the west and why the youth are under so much pressure. The fucking boomers have ruined us all.

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

(As for the romantic relationships between women and men, who the fuck cares. Lmao, whatelse will i hear.. As long as their civilization flourish, they advance in every way, children are being born and people are happy, who cares really? Science doesnt and guess what, people also.}

Who cares about a cohesive society under socialism? So you want collectivism with hyper selfish individualism? MAKE YOUR MIND UP!

Single mothers BREED today's criminals and dysfunctional teens who are incapable of seeking their interests. A family promotes more productive citizens who work and care for one another. How can you not see the bigger picture? Families are self interested in-group structures, and with other families they build communities which in their self interest seek to influence society. The hierarchies do not want competition, they do not want outlying influences so by preventing these networks forming on the ground level, they prevent competition to their hegemony.

The relationship between the man and woman is the fundamental foundation of a society. If you break it, you prevent competitors to your governing order, you fragment society and can then manipulate and mold it to however you like.

Do you really want such power to be forever held by globalist sociopaths who ferment tension, debt and war for profit?

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?v=31

The truth is, Scandinavian citizens pay 60-65% taxes and yet, they live insanely good

High taxation societies have tax loopholes. No one pays the high tax rates except the naive.

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

well provided and happy lifes, where government provides everything, from high class infastructure, roads and buildings to healthcare and education institution,

I don't have an issue with many of the economic socialist policies. The problem is the progressive social policies.

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

everything works perfectly, all people are educated, all people work,

No they don't. Swedish unemployment is at 7.8% and growing. Education standards are dropping.

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

no stay at home mums,

Whats wrong with stay at home mothers? Why should mothers who have to care of children also have to work? That's exhausting.

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

people work less than average, they even get long maternity AND paternity leaves, all paid for, new mothers get a mother starting kit aswell!

Single mothers who barely have children, work awful hours, are incredibly unhappy and have no father figures in the household. They cannot nurture their children properly which creates dysfunctional teens and future criminals.

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

corruption and crime is low,

Sweden is the rape capital of the Western world. It's crime rates are skyrocketing.

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

happiness is high ( denmark ranks 1st worldwide)

Denmark is white, and socially conservative. They have the lowest immigration rates in Europe. Sadly that is somewhat changing and not for the better. A Muslim immigrant shot up a leftist 'free speech' event not long ago.

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

gender, sexuality and religion are not in the vocabulary, you can be gay and enjoy all aspects of life there

And still be a depressed, drug abused, unemployed, suicidal, std ridden degenerate who will never have children. This is dysfunctional.

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

you can be handicaped and still join the workforce and have people treat you with respect

I don't have an issue with this.

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

you can be a women and be the head of a big corporation and boss people around because you deserve it

Companies have forced quotas which demand a certain percentage of women in high positions. If they deserved it, they wouldn't need affirmative action to get these positions, they would have earned them like men do.

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

and offcourse you can be a bigoted right wing christian preaching bollocks

No you can't. It's illegal to criticize immigration in Sweden. Hate speech laws are rampant. Also, I'm not a Christian.

"Sweden passes law to criminalize any criticism of immigration"
http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.122/sweden-passes-law-to-criminalize-any-criticism-of-immigration.html

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

, all alone in a corner, where no one talks to you.

The Fascist movement in Scandinavia is one of the fastest growing and most active groups in the world. Sweden and Greece will see the first Fascist uprisings. It is a certainty now.




"Multiculturalism comes to Saltsjöbaden" - (Funny as fuck)

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

You can be everything you want, the state supports you and provides for you and guess what, its working.

It isn't otherwise Sweden wouldn't be turning into a third world nation. The only thing holding up Norway from the same fate is Norwegian oil.

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

As for all the rape stuff, lol, i honestly have no idea about these things. Sound like housewife tale..

The police are not housewives. The horror stories from Sweden are seen all the time. Rape convictions are up by a third since 2003, the largest increase is seen in the growing sexual exploitation of minors.

Наводници:

"On Thursday, we brought charges against three guys suspected of having forced a 17 year old girl in to group sex. They consider themselves to be completely innocent and do not understand why they are being prosecuted."

"-I am not exaggerating when I say that I feel frightened by what we hear during interrogation."

"Mihajlo Mrdjen had visited a school, on the road from there, he saw two guys who grabbed a female school friend's head and pushed it toward their crotch. Mihajlo went up to them and asked them what they were doing."

"-They were very cocky - until I introduced myself as an investigator for the police. I asked the girl if she wanted to make a complaint of sexual harassment. But she said no, she did not think it mattered. "It happens all the time, I'm used to it," she said."

"Mihajlo Mrdjen chose to take it up with the headmaster of the school where he was told that it "only" involved "jargon", that "it is the way it is nowadays."

"In a case of a teenage girl suspected of being used by four boys at the same time. Another seven guys "kept watch". Preliminary investigation against the suspects is underway."

"In another case, a twelve-year girl had to give two older guys oral sex at a party. The girl does not want to contribute to the criminal investigation as the preliminary investigation has been closed. In the same celebration another girl was abused. The offender was sentenced to six months' youth custody."

"In a fourth case they found a teenage boy, according to his own confession in the interrogation, he said it was okay to "share" his girlfriend to his friends under the threat of outsourcing movies of her in sexual situations"

"-there is always someone there to take pictures or film, leading to new threats"

"Most of those questioned guys do not believe that it is rape to force someone to give oral sex."

"Teen Gang Rape no longer a 'rare case' in Sweden"
http://www.dn.se/sthlm/raare-attityd-till-sexbrott-bland-unga/

"Swedish police warn of rise in teenage gang rapes filmed on smartphones"
http://www.scmp.com/news/world/article/1373052/swedish-police-warn-rise-teenage-gang-rapes-filmed-smartphones

Just the other week, an immigrant was given community service for raping a teen.

"Somali immigrant brutally raped 12-year-old girl, sentenced to 180 hours community service"
http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.1524/somali-immigrant-brutally-raped-12-year-old-girl-sentenced-to-180-hours-community-service.html

It isn't a one off. This is how Sweden deals with the rape of swedish girls.

Наводници:

"A light sentence has been handed out to six teenage boys, aged 15 to 17, from the diverse Muslim community in Sweden for raping a 15-year-old girl in a north-western suburb of Stockholm in March. Five of the teens were found guilty of aggravated rape by the Solna District Court, with the sixth guilty of attempted aggravated rape."

"Five of the boys were sentenced to over one hundred hours of community service each, and have been ordered to pay 55,000 kronor ($8,500) each, in damages to the victim. "

"The incidences of rape have shot up as Sweden has accepted immigrants from Muslim countries. Although Muslims now make up 6 % of the Swedish population, 77.6% of all rape crimes are committed by Muslims."

"Statistics now suggest that 1 out of every 4 Swedish women will be raped in her lifetime (Between the ages of 16-79), with the statistics higher in urban centers where the immigrants cluster. In Stockholm last summer there was an average of five rapes reported per day, with the largest increases being found in children under 15. Stockholm is now made up of one-third immigrant and is between a fifth and a quarter Muslim."

"Swedish Court Hands Out Light Sentence to Muslim Teen Rapists"
http://www.clarionproject.org/news/swedish-court-hands-out-light-sentence-muslim-teen-rapists

Rape capital of the European world. Numbers of rape skyrocketing since opening of Sweden's borders.

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

I cannot debate, that coloured people are to blame for every negative US statistic, as its something that cannot be proven.

Yes it can. Crime and deprivation statistics are well documented by both the state and unbiased institutions.

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

But what i can safely say, is that if they were not there, USA would not be a superpower now, hell it might not even be Usa.

No, it would likely be ever better.

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

Maybe North Brazil

And why is Brazil so terrible? Who commits all the crime there?

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

As for my ideals, they are fine. I would choose Scandinavia over future Nazi uk or Fascist Midlle east, thank you very much.

The UK isn't Nazi and follows similar policies to Scandinavia. The Middle East isn't Fascist either. Authority does not mean Fascist.

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

And syriza will not fail, as shown by the referendum he has 60% of the people with him, plus me.

SYRIZA JUST agreed on a bailout even WORSE than the one the people rejected on the Sunday referendum. How naive are you? Do you even know whats going on in your own country? Have you even seen the EU demands that your leftist government just agreed to?

Read this

"Greek proposal documents: 10 July 2015"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-33474605

Наводници:

9. Product market
-"take irreversible steps (including announcement of date for submission of binding offers) to privatize the electricity transmission company, ADMIE"

10. Privatization
"The Board of Directors of the Hellenic Republic Asset Development Fund will approve its Asset Development Plan which will include for privatisation all the assets under HRDAF as of 31/12/2014; and the Cabinet will endorse the plan."

"To facilitate the completion of the tenders, the authorities will complete all government pending actions including those needed for the regional airports, TRAINOSE, Egnatia, the ports of Pireaus and Thessaloniki and Hellinikon"

"-The government and HRADF will announce binding bid dates for Piraeus and Thessaloniki ports of no later than end-October 2015"

"-Take irreversible steps for the sale of the regional airports at the current terms with the winning bidder already selected."

SYRIZA just sold their nation away. They were voted in on a policy of nationalization and anti-austerity but instead they are going to privatize more of Greece than the awful previous Neo Cons ever would have dared. This is corporate rape. Your energy sector, your airports, your ports are all for sale in an irreversible binding deal they cannot legally get out of.

Your nation is being sold piece by piece. You thought austerity was bad now? Just wait, it hasn't even begun.

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

Golden Dawn facists are in jail now

Second in charge was just released, the farce of a trial will be overturned. SYRIZA has shown its true colors. They got into bed with the bankers as I predicted. They sold their nation as I said they would. Your communist flag waving, Che Guevara T-shirt wearing leftist government just sold your nations MOST IMPORTANT assets for dirt cheap to the very globalists who put you in debt.

Never EVER trust the Left.

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

getting education on how to open up wide for Pakistani inmates. I guess you wont be seeing much of them

No one touches the Fascists in prison. Only anarchists and limp-wristed lefties get buggered by mozzies.

Напишано од Tik-Tok, 11.07.2015 at 10:56

Again, Fascists were the first to introduce Universal Healthcare. Promoting a capable citizenship of healthy genetic attributes is a perfectly legitimate and logical policy. Only a decrepit nation wouldn't take care of its elderly and ill.

Nope, Communists first introduced Universal Healthcare in Soviet Union 1917, Nazis came to power in Germany in 1933, 16 years after Communists in Russia. Therefore Nazis copied Communist style of creating a country. Copied corporations, building infrastructure and large military. Basically Germany was a copy of Soviet Union. Dark side of Communism :/

Citizenship for 'healty genetics' is barbarian. Even the fittest can get sick and his genetics distorted. It happens. Would you kill him then for being untermensch? You are barbarian.

Напишано од Tik-Tok, 11.07.2015 at 13:13

They are all white, Nordic and up until recently, very socially conservative. I don't think you understand what a National Socialist is. All the economic polices are similar, just not the social ones.

...*scratches head*

Excuse me, but we East Asians have scored consistently higher on IQ tests than you white people. Does that mean... holy cow...



No. Seriously. There is very little inherent difference between races. The people of East Asia were once described as "lazy." Europeans claimed that us lazy Asians could never grow rich.

China, South Korea, and Japan all started to prosper very quickly once decent education set in. Turns out we're not so lazy after all. The average South Korean worker works, what, 2,000 hours a year now? Longest hours in the OEDC.

The exact same can be done in countries inhabited by so-called "inferior races."

Напишано од Tik-Tok, 11.07.2015 at 13:13

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 10.07.2015 at 16:13

gender, sexuality and religion are not in the vocabulary, you can be gay and enjoy all aspects of life there

And still be a depressed, drug abused, unemployed, suicidal, std ridden degenerate who will never have children. This is dysfunctional.

Isn't "depressed, drug-abused, unemployed, [and] suicidal" what discrimination makes of gay people? The fact remains that people to whom less opportunities are offered are more likely to be all of those things.

Напишано од Tik-Tok, 11.07.2015 at 13:13

It isn't otherwise Sweden wouldn't be turning into a third world nation. The only thing holding up Norway from the same fate is Norwegian oil.

0.9 HDI is not a third world nation. Sweden may be declining, but it's not collapsing. No way.

Because you see, some of us live in countries where 0.9 HDI is an un-achievable dream in our lifetimes. I've lived in a few of them.

Напишано од Tik-Tok, 11.07.2015 at 13:13

Never EVER trust the Left.

Hey! Not nice! Don't generalize!

EDIT: I've seen that UN report you've linked to, and it's... surprising, to say the least. At the 2030 top 20 you see some very conservative countries (Japan, Greece), some very progressive countries (the Netherlands, New Zealand), highly militant states (Switzerland, South Korea), some very pacifist states (Canada), etc. etc...

Maybe there isn't a "right" ideology.

Also, the way they calculated these figures are fascinating.

Напишано од International, 11.07.2015 at 23:06

Напишано од Tik-Tok, 11.07.2015 at 13:13

Never EVER trust the Left.

Hey! Not nice! Don't generalize!

Never EVER trust the International.

Напишано од Tundy, 11.07.2015 at 23:09

Never EVER trust the International.

We still have higher IQ rates than you white people!

All hail education!

Our Greeks,

befriending with a weird people

can we all be nice to eachother in europe again? :/

Напишано од Tik-Tok, 11.07.2015 at 13:13

HID index disagrees. This UN report states it all.

Наводници:

"Sweden to become a Third World Country by 2030, according to UN"
http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.454/sweden-to-become-a-third-world-country-by-2030-according-to-un.html

First of all, thank you for the truly fascinating read. The paper details an interesting approach for projecting HDI data.

The paper was good - but the resulting Speisa article on Sweden is right-wing propaganda I am disgusted by.

Several points,

1. The paper claims an HDI decline, over 20 years from 2010 to 2030, of .04, to a 2030 figure of about .90. 0.90 HDI (pre-2010 method) is not "third world" by any reasonable definition of that phrase. It is still a solid "very high development country."

2. The paper does not include internal politics in its calculations, except a boolean of "elected legislature". The calculations simply attempted to predict the future using past data (specifically, the 1970-2005 HDI statistics).

Since policies was not one of the special variables considered (things like natural disasters and such), claiming that "liberal policies" is the cause of Sweden's low standing in this paper is saying that Sweden's policies for the last 45 years is wrong. Which, I think you'll agree, is clearly absurd.

3. Since the entire point of the paper was to estimate the development of undeveloped or developing countries (classified in this paper as Cohorts 1~3) by using the history of developed countries (classified by the paper as Cohort 4) as a model (e.g. Cohort 2's 1970 is comparable to Cohort 3's 1945 and Cohort 4's 1920), the predictions made for Sweden (a Cohort 4 country) have no sound standing by this paper's methods.

4. This paper assumes that all countries of all ethnicities develop at a similar pace. I thought national socialists didn't like this sort of assumptions. Don't you?

Anyways, thanks for a good read. But stop citing it as an evidence for Sweden's failure. Because it isn't.

If you want evidence of Sweden's failure, I daresay you'll have better luck browsing CNN articles than you'll do browsing UN papers.

Напишано од International, 11.07.2015 at 23:06

...*scratches head*
Excuse me, but we East Asians have scored consistently higher on IQ tests than you white people. Does that mean... holy cow...

How is that relevant? No one asserted that East Asians don't have high IQ. We're talking about Europe and the effects of immigration and progressive social policy. When Somalian snackbars start mass moving to your city, then you can tell us how wonderful it is. Until then, you don't have a leg to stand on.

Напишано од International, 11.07.2015 at 23:06

No. Seriously. There is very little inherent difference between races. The people of East Asia were once described as "lazy." Europeans claimed that us lazy Asians could never grow rich.

There is a very large difference between races and cultures. How much victim playing are you going to do? Your group hasn't even been mentioned and now you're bringing up unrelated and un backed claims. 'Europeans' said this and that. So all Europeans said this in some legal charter? No, you're pulling some irrelevant quote out your ass. I never said East Asians were lazy. China is an ancient Empire and Japan dominated the pacific. So what are you even talking about?

Напишано од International, 11.07.2015 at 23:06

China, South Korea, and Japan all started to prosper very quickly once decent education set in.

East Asia has always has some form of greater prosperity. It wasn't westernized 'Education' that did that. Why are you sliding to East Asia when this is clearly about progressive social policies causing unbalance under socialist style states.

Напишано од International, 11.07.2015 at 23:06

The exact same can be done in countries inhabited by so-called "inferior races."

No mention of inferiority was mentioned in this topic. It's just a concrete fact that non European immigration into European states is detrimental. Especially from areas of the world who practice completely opposing cultural ideals and who are never going to reach the level of European standards. Genetic or environmental, I don't care. We aren't the worlds lifeboat. Anyone that disagrees cna happily move to Africa, but they won't, they will keep living in European majority nations while claiming they need diversity.

Напишано од International, 11.07.2015 at 23:06

Isn't "depressed, drug-abused, unemployed, [and] suicidal" what discrimination makes of gay people? The fact remains that people to whom less opportunities are offered are more likely to be all of those things.

No, Sweden is progressive. Despite this, it shares identical social issues with homosexuals in nations with much less progressive policies. The lifestyle causes these problems. 75% of Lesbians are obese, they have the highest levels of domestic abuse and children they adopt are 10x more likely to be abused than children adopted by heterosexuals. It's not 'disquiminashun' that causes that. Neither does it force homosexuals to get involved in massive gang bangs and have much higher sexual partners spreading high levels of STDs and HIV.

Some 'bug chasing' forums have over a thousand users. Their lifestyle breeds that behavior, not conservative social policy.

Напишано од International, 11.07.2015 at 23:06

not a third world nation. Sweden may be declining, but it's not collapsing. No way.

Because you see, some of us live in countries where 0.9 HDI is an un-achievable dream in our lifetimes. I've lived in a few of them.

It's collapsing. I showed enough data and crime rates. Sweden is falling so hard than even the UN can't hide it. Sweden is the most progressive nation in the world, it SHOULD be the greatest according to Khal. Ironically, it's fast becoming the worst in the western world. That is a concrete correlation.

Напишано од International, 11.07.2015 at 23:06

Hey! Not nice! Don't generalize!

Leftists have always compromised with bankers and international corporate globalists. Every single time. Only the Fascists ever stood up to them.

Напишано од International, 11.07.2015 at 23:06

EDIT: I've seen that UN report you've linked to, and it's... surprising, to say the least. At the 2030 top 20 you see some very conservative countries (Japan, Greece), some very progressive countries (the Netherlands, New Zealand), highly militant states (Switzerland, South Korea), some very pacifist states (Canada), etc. etc...

And all are either East Asian or White. What a coincidence. Again, irrelevant. You're way off topic and playing the victim to assertions that have never been made. Pathetic. This entire post has been one big wail of "RACCISSSSMMMM OPPWESHUN HOMOFOBEA WAAHHH"

Go cry elsewhere over fictitious statements that no one ever made.

Напишано од International, 12.07.2015 at 12:10

First of all, thank you for the truly fascinating read. The paper details an interesting approach for projecting HDI data.

The paper was good - but the resulting Speisa article on Sweden is right-wing propaganda I am disgusted by.

Oy vey... statistical facts are 'disgusting' We much prefer emotional pleas and accusations of racism rather than numbers crunched by un biased institutions who disagree with our dogmatic world view.

Напишано од International, 12.07.2015 at 12:10

1. The paper claims an HDI decline, over 20 years from 2010 to 2030, of .04, to a 2030 figure of about .90. 0.90 HDI (pre-2010 method) is not "third world" by any reasonable definition of that phrase. It is still a solid "very high development country."

In major decline. That's the point. You are arguing over semantics, not the topic. This is sliding.

And if they continue their current open border policy, this decline will expand exponentially. It's the rape capital of Europe. The argument is that this wonderful progressive socialist nation is the best in the world and yet it has some of the worst growing crime rates and falling standards. Progressive socialism is clearly detrimental. National Socialism is vastly superior.

Напишано од International, 12.07.2015 at 12:10

2. The paper does not include internal politics in its calculations, except a boolean of "elected legislature". The calculations simply attempted to predict the future using past data (specifically, the 1970-2005 HDI statistics).

How is that relevant? Are they in a civil war? No. The major parties are very similar. All pushing the same horrific progressive social policies since the 90s.

Напишано од International, 12.07.2015 at 12:10

Since policies was not one of the special variables considered (things like natural disasters and such), claiming that "liberal policies" is the cause of Sweden's low standing in this paper is saying that Sweden's policies for the last 45 years is wrong. Which, I think you'll agree, is clearly absurd.

I didn't say 45 years. How about you read the post? Progressive policies were introduced in the late 80s and early 90s. This policies have become more extreme in recent years. At no point was it asserted that some socialist economic policies couldn't be beneficial but ONLY when coupled with strict socially conservative policy.

Напишано од International, 12.07.2015 at 12:10

3. Since the entire point of the paper was to estimate the development of undeveloped or developing countries (classified in this paper as Cohorts 1~3) by using the history of developed countries (classified by the paper as Cohort 4) as a model (e.g. Cohort 2's 1970 is comparable to Cohort 3's 1945 and Cohort 4's 1920), the predictions made for Sweden (a Cohort 4 country) have no sound standing by this paper's methods.

So we will just ignore the statics showing lowering standards, growing crime and growing debt. Understood, everything's good. You know better.

Напишано од International, 12.07.2015 at 12:10

4. This paper assumes that all countries of all ethnicities develop at a similar pace. I thought national socialists didn't like this sort of assumptions. Don't you?

Irrelevant. Is Sweden in major decline? yes. That's the point. You haven't proved otherwise.

Напишано од International, 12.07.2015 at 12:10

Anyways, thanks for a good read. But stop citing it as an evidence for Sweden's failure. Because it isn't.

Because you just say so. There are many other sources for this, I used the UN because you lefty progs wont accept conservative sources. This is as un biased as it gets yet you slap it away because of what? Lack of political intrigue? Lol. Pathetic.

Напишано од International, 12.07.2015 at 12:10

If you want evidence of Sweden's failure, I daresay you'll have better luck browsing CNN articles than you'll do browsing UN papers.

CNN rarely talks about Sweden. All evidence shows massive decline. No evidence shows the opposite.

Again, nothing of note said. You argued over language and not numbers, stats and policies. When you can disprove the vast evidence of decline, come back to me. Until then, stay frosty.

Напишано од Tik-Tok, 12.07.2015 at 16:20

Again, nothing of note said. You argued over language and not numbers, stats and policies. When you can disprove the vast evidence of decline, come back to me. Until then, stay frosty.

...*scratches head*

That post was not intended to mean anything beyond demonstrating how that particular UN paper is not suitable evidence to show Sweden's decline.

I am not trying to dispute the main point here. Still collecting evidence on that note.

Напишано од International, 12.07.2015 at 21:57

...*scratches head*

You should get that checked out. It could be head lice.

Напишано од International, 12.07.2015 at 21:57

That post was not intended to mean anything beyond demonstrating how that particular UN paper is not suitable evidence to show Sweden's decline.

I am not trying to dispute the main point here. Still collecting evidence on that note.

Lowering standards and statistical facts aren't suitable evidence of decline? Crunched numbers of a major decline in standards isn't good enough?

You're talking shit. The report is more than enough to show the decline. The ONLY thing you have objected to is a lack of political intrigue, you ignored the 20 pages of numbers and equations in all areas of society. You've pushed the goal post, made ridiculous claims of 'racism' and reject a source like the UN which you support. Weak.

I'm calling checkmate until one of you decides to let your balls drop and actually provide some opposition.

Напишано од Tik-Tok, 13.07.2015 at 10:15

Напишано од International, 12.07.2015 at 21:57

...*scratches head*

You should get that checked out. It could be head lice.

Напишано од International, 12.07.2015 at 21:57

That post was not intended to mean anything beyond demonstrating how that particular UN paper is not suitable evidence to show Sweden's decline.

I am not trying to dispute the main point here. Still collecting evidence on that note.

Lowering standards and statistical facts aren't suitable evidence of decline? Crunched numbers of a major decline in standards isn't good enough?

You're talking shit. The report is more than enough to show the decline. The ONLY thing you have objected to is a lack of political intrigue, you ignored the 20 pages of numbers and equations in all areas of society. You've pushed the goal post, made ridiculous claims of 'racism' and reject a source like the UN which you support. Weak.

I'm calling checkmate until one of you decides to let your balls drop and actually provide some opposition.

Since you're not getting my point, I'll risk oversimplifying it.

I really must apologise. Sometimes I'm frightfully unclear.

The paper projects that Sweden will decline in the 2010-2030 period because it declines, relative to other developed countries, in the 1970-2005 period.

But you have said that Sweden's policies didn't start going wrong until quite recently. So social-liberal policies cannot explain the general trend of 1970-2005, and therefore has nothing to do with the paper's predictions.

Напишано од International, 09.07.2015 at 06:10

Напишано од Unleashed, 09.07.2015 at 05:21

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Conspiracy theories now, are we?

Can you provide any evidence to the effect that Kennedy was assassinated for his anti-government views, other than the silly claim that correlation - on a sample size of one, to boot - implies causation?

I believe the term "conspiracy theory" is a propaganda invented by those people who wish to conceal the truth. It is a simple language technique using words in order to ridicule the "theorist" to the unthinking and ignorant masses who then conform to the official narrative that is spoon fed into their brains by media and education. The thinking conspiracy theorist who is attempting to use his or her mind to solve the riddles and problems of the current manmade matrix is then rejected by the mind controlled human herd who now label this thinking person as an outcast of their ignorant fake society.

Напишано од Unleashed, 16.07.2015 at 00:31

I believe the term "conspiracy theory" is a propaganda invented by those people who wish to conceal the truth. It is a simple language technique using words in order to ridicule the "theorist" to the unthinking and ignorant masses who then conform to the official narrative that is spoon fed into their brains by media and education. The thinking conspiracy theorist who is attempting to use his or her mind to solve the riddles and problems of the current manmade matrix is then rejected by the mind controlled human herd who now label this thinking person as an outcast of their ignorant fake society.

I will ask again.

Do you have evidence that Kennedy was assassinated for his anti-secret views?

Напишано од Tik-Tok, 11.07.2015 at 13:13

Single mothers BREED today's criminals and dysfunctional teens who are incapable of seeking their interests. A family promotes more productive citizens who work and care for one another. How can you not see the bigger picture? Families are self interested in-group structures, and with other families they build communities which in their self interest seek to influence society. The hierarchies do not want competition, they do not want outlying influences so by preventing these networks forming on the ground level, they prevent competition to their hegemony.

The relationship between the man and woman is the fundamental foundation of a society. If you break it, you prevent competitors to your governing order, you fragment society and can then manipulate and mold it to however you like.

Single mothers who barely have children, work awful hours, are incredibly unhappy and have no father figures in the household. They cannot nurture their children properly which creates dysfunctional teens and future criminals.

No you can't. It's illegal to criticize immigration in Sweden. Hate speech laws are rampant. Also, I'm not a Christian.

One could argue it's godawful to say this about your own home...
But Tik-Tok is fucking right about the cases outlined in the quote.
Single mothers in the modern Swedish society are ENCOURAGED by their surroundings to be "Independent" and "Strong" due to an overemphasis on the split between the sexes caused by the leftist and feminist propaganda we are bombarded with on national television. I can say this personally, because my mother herself broke up with my father just before I was born and for several years refused to let him see me in person, and to boot had the support of the law and the social surroundings in her struggles to keep me away from any influence she deemed dangerous. 14 years later I am a periodically depressed sad excuse for a human that is living as a social outcast and with virtually no positive grades at all. The same story is happening over and over again with single mothers thinking they are working for womanly independence from the male side of the spectrum. Worse comes to worst, nobody thinks this is wrong and doesn't realize the dangers of this.
Born in Gothenburg I have experienced the differences between urbanized, 'single parent' and 'socialist progressive' type of child education and 'traditionalist, social conservative' type of education. In the more rural conservative areas a LOT less of my peers are doing drugs and having sex. What is unthinkable here is an everyday occasion in your socialist paradise type of society. Sweden is walking right into its own grave with these progressive policies...

Oh and, he's right, you can't criticize immigration. Since I am of age below 15 I do not know about the judicial consequences but I do know of the social. Uttering a word against immigration will find most people unwilling to communicate with you at all. Personally during my stay in Gothenburg I got bullied for speaking out against immigration and for not labeling myself a Feminist. We're a crackpot of extremists and progressives with the progressives unquestioned dictating policy while the innovative factions duke it out on the streets in a classic right vs left style.

As for the statement against the left, I can only agree. Never, EVER trust the left.

Even though the fact is that since I am of partly immigrant heritage radical Fascists would kill me too, god damn, I believe a strong right-wing government could actually sort something out in this country before the liberals and social democrats tear it apart to the point of needing foreign intervention.

Lol why don't you stop arguing about multiculturalism ? don't you see that it's bs and failure, since 90% of crimes made by non native population ? and mostly they are racist towards native population, the thing that makes national socialist parties uprise, is corrupted/bs government which leads to civil unrest, same happened in germany after ww1 the french divisions (yes divisions are 10K+ man strong) were causing disorder in rheinland (one of the main reasons national socialist parties uprose) it's obvious that most eu countries might become ultranationalists led by national socialist parties, well u can't blame them anyways u should blame their previous governments who didn't care about their population. Even i am fed up by turks and armenians here in GEORGIA which isn't as developed as western eu countries, well they don't dare to do things they do in sweden and uk, but still they mostly are criminals, and i can't even imagine what is happening in other countries.

Populations have been migrating for centuries. The Hungarians weren't even in Europe until about a thousand years ago, and the "non-native populations" now utterly dominate North America and Australia, while the native populations there are now a tiny minority. Economic opportunity has always, does now, and will forever drive people across borders.

For better or worse, like it or not, there will be a lot more non-Europeans in Europe soon, unless the European governments are willing to tear apart every international human rights treaties signed in the last century. You know, things like forbidding genocide and stuff.

Also, stop with the left-right divide. Political beliefs cannot be summarized in a one-dimensional scale.

EDIT: The radical nationalists are apparently extremely strong in Northern Europe.
A note to all Swedish fascists: Please stay in your own country and don't repeat Hitler's mistake.