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You want this game to stay luck passed or get back to skill days?

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03.09.2017 - 10:58
Since the players who complain about this be considered crying and they desert this game with out even bothering arguing about it now we should make it clear for what the community wants to take the decision to leave this game or stay in the majority's choice...

ps: if clovis comments anything i hope mods delete what ever buttlicking bs he/she writes
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03.09.2017 - 11:19
Sorry but I don't understand :/
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03.09.2017 - 11:29
We've no admins to apply mechanics changes syrian. Its a waste of time right now. Would you believe ust the other day. I had 9 sm bombers 3 inf fail vs an 8 inf neutral. Its hilarious because in 3 years of playing i had been using 8 bombers 3 inf vs that neutral amount. Sometime last year that failed on me for the first time so i switched up to 9.

I tried convincing amok some time back to apply changes to the rolls sytem to reduce variance in results but he wasnt interested. If he were actually here working on the game i bet he could be convinced but yea. Maybe someday eh.
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03.09.2017 - 11:31
Напишано од Permamuted, 03.09.2017 at 11:29

I had 9 sm bombers 3 inf fail vs an 8 inf neutral.

wait what tf?
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03.09.2017 - 11:43
Напишано од LukeTan, 03.09.2017 at 11:31

Напишано од Permamuted, 03.09.2017 at 11:29

I had 9 sm bombers 3 inf fail vs an 8 inf neutral.

wait what tf?


My thoughts exactly. I couldnt believe it. It was a game vs kogi. I double checked the unit amounts i sent after because i thought maybe i had sent less by accident. But theres no doubt it was 9 bombers. On that same turn i had 2 bombers 1 inf fail vs 2 militia. This ive seen before but extremely rarely. But yea i think its pretty shit. These kinds of lotto rolls happen every so often and fuck games.
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03.09.2017 - 13:19
Напишано од Permamuted, 03.09.2017 at 11:29

We've no admins to apply mechanics changes syrian. Its a waste of time right now. Would you believe ust the other day. I had 9 sm bombers 3 inf fail vs an 8 inf neutral. Its hilarious because in 3 years of playing i had been using 8 bombers 3 inf vs that neutral amount. Sometime last year that failed on me for the first time so i switched up to 9.

I tried convincing amok some time back to apply changes to the rolls sytem to reduce variance in results but he wasnt interested. If he were actually here working on the game i bet he could be convinced but yea. Maybe someday eh.

http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=19320&board_page=34
http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=19499&board_page=33
searched for old thread where clovis cried... what happened is he sent some 4tank 4inf on egypt i sent 12-14 inf we both imp and he won so i bypassed his wall and he cried and left D
the game is very ridiculous anymore.... its not enough of the tb bullshit but even rolls
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03.09.2017 - 14:08
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Rolls seem to work on my side most of the time...
ive been sending 7 infs to Austria since forever and I can only remember it failing once or twice D (didn't know that everyone sent 8 on it )
rolls are variable yes..but I think that makes the game more fun and unpredictable, rolls are the last concern for aw anyway,admins need to fix servers first
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03.09.2017 - 14:16
IDK. if turnblocks for instance gonna be presice math than it would be too powerful tool than it was suppose to be in first place
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03.09.2017 - 14:24
Напишано од Rock Lee, 03.09.2017 at 14:16

IDK. if turnblocks for instance gonna be presice math than it would be too powerful tool than it was suppose to be in first place

its already a powerful tool but there is a bug to avoid tbs using transports tho... people who tbs alot exploit it examples are krator and clovis
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03.09.2017 - 15:03
Напишано од SyrianDevil, 03.09.2017 at 13:19

searched for old thread where clovis cried... what happened is he sent some 4tank 4inf on egypt i sent 12-14 inf we both imp and he won so i bypassed his wall and he cried and left D


"I got bad rolls, so I'm gonna exploit bugs to win"

Nice logic pal .

Here's what Ivan would tell you:

Напишано од Ivan, 27.01.2015 at 03:11

Time and time again I hear people complaining about unfair battle outcomes. "Surely my superior force should've defeated that puny army?", they say. Well, in most case, sure, but there are exceptions, and they are absolutely necessary.

First of all, if you're interested in battle mechanics, I can recommend you to put the slowest battle speed in your settings - this will show the actual rolls (damage) and help you understand the mechanics. Also, here's a FAQ battles entry. Basically, every unit normally has 7 HP (hit points) and a certain range of attack and defense rolls (depending on the situation). That range is always 1 to max attack/defense (which you can see on the units page / units menu in the game).

Now, if you're extremely unlucky, your unit will roll 1 several times in a row, only dealing 1 damage each time. It would take 8 hits just to take one enemy unit down. Every time you attack, an enemy unit fires back (using their defense stats). So, every time you will also be taking damage. Again, in an extreme situation, enemy can take down one unit per shot.

Things like that happen, and the randomness and unpredictability factor that they bring is extremely important to keep the gameplay exciting and being closer to the real world, where as you know, pure numbers don't always win and unpredictable outcomes happen all the time.


https://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=17795
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03.09.2017 - 17:01
Напишано од clovis1122, 03.09.2017 at 15:03

Напишано од SyrianDevil, 03.09.2017 at 13:19

searched for old thread where clovis cried... what happened is he sent some 4tank 4inf on egypt i sent 12-14 inf we both imp and he won so i bypassed his wall and he cried and left D


"I got bad rolls, so I'm gonna exploit bugs to win"

Nice logic pal .

Here's what Ivan would tell you:

Напишано од Ivan, 27.01.2015 at 03:11

Time and time again I hear people complaining about unfair battle outcomes. "Surely my superior force should've defeated that puny army?", they say. Well, in most case, sure, but there are exceptions, and they are absolutely necessary.

First of all, if you're interested in battle mechanics, I can recommend you to put the slowest battle speed in your settings - this will show the actual rolls (damage) and help you understand the mechanics. Also, here's a FAQ battles entry. Basically, every unit normally has 7 HP (hit points) and a certain range of attack and defense rolls (depending on the situation). That range is always 1 to max attack/defense (which you can see on the units page / units menu in the game).

Now, if you're extremely unlucky, your unit will roll 1 several times in a row, only dealing 1 damage each time. It would take 8 hits just to take one enemy unit down. Every time you attack, an enemy unit fires back (using their defense stats). So, every time you will also be taking damage. Again, in an extreme situation, enemy can take down one unit per shot.

Things like that happen, and the randomness and unpredictability factor that they bring is extremely important to keep the gameplay exciting and being closer to the real world, where as you know, pure numbers don't always win and unpredictable outcomes happen all the time.


https://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=17795

the thing is you have came where you are not invited to post in and you have even posted...
you cheated several times against me you got OP rolls and refused to accept the fact that you have lost several times especially at that egypt thing... who take egypt wins in africa we all know that and this bullshit that has happened there gave you an win you had no right to take so i balanced the shit out and yet you turned it against me because justice means and meant nothing to you :/
and as i have said nobody gives a fuck about your opinion you dont want to play you want to moderate the people always siding with admins against your friends thats why you have no friends bitch
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03.09.2017 - 17:06
Напишано од SyrianDevil, 03.09.2017 at 17:01

you have no friends bitch


I'm hurt.
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04.09.2017 - 14:32
Напишано од clovis1122, 03.09.2017 at 17:06

Напишано од SyrianDevil, 03.09.2017 at 17:01

you have no friends bitch


I'm hurt.

I am your friend...death is too....Anyway syrian game is dead u wont get anything new nothing will change....map creator 5 years to be done....RIP
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04.09.2017 - 15:44
Напишано од Chess, 04.09.2017 at 15:14

Keeping luck as part of the gameplay in order to make games as realistic as possible might be important for RP/non-competitive games, but for competitive games you obviously don't want that.
I don't think Ivan considered that part.

Just give us the option to turn off rolls/crits, if we are ever going to see this game being further developed.


turning off rolls would be bland and turning off crits alone wouldnt solve the problem when a 10 att unit can roll a 1 or a 10.
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04.09.2017 - 16:14
I think luck part should exist in a competitive game, but not in this amount for sure. Drastically lower. Lately it feels like its a biggest decider of win/loss, no matter the skill.

Its like.. that time back then when before the game starts, you surprisingly become a budist, muslim and christian at the same time, praying that neutrals wont get +1 after turn 1 just to fuck you up and your expansion hah..
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04.09.2017 - 17:46
For you to GTFO
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04.09.2017 - 17:52
Lenny sent 40 PD infantry to berlin, I defended it with 10 SM bombers 10 militia 5 infantry and I won with like 8 units left, he got angry and said game was all luck no skill
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04.09.2017 - 18:16
Напишано од FlameandFury, 04.09.2017 at 17:52

Lenny sent 40 PD infantry to berlin, I defended it with 10 SM bombers 10 militia 5 infantry and I won with like 8 units left, he got angry and said game was all luck no skill

his right.. i guess you were RA as well
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06.09.2017 - 04:20
Напишано од Chess, 04.09.2017 at 15:14

Keeping luck as part of the gameplay in order to make games as realistic as possible might be important for RP/non-competitive games, but for competitive games you obviously don't want that.
I don't think Ivan considered that part.

Just give us the option to turn off rolls/crits, if we are ever going to see this game being further developed.

Then what would i do with my favourite strat lb?

Напишано од Steve Aoki, 04.09.2017 at 16:14

I think luck part should exist in a competitive game, but not in this amount for sure. Drastically lower. Lately it feels like its a biggest decider of win/loss, no matter the skill.

Its like.. that time back then when before the game starts, you surprisingly become a budist, muslim and christian at the same time, praying that neutrals wont get +1 after turn 1 just to fuck you up and your expansion hah..

agree, anyone can just screw your t2 up if they get op tbs and op rolls
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