Hypothetical war Greece vs Serbia

Ok so here is the scenario serbia gets renewed nationalism after remerging with montenegro, they quickly bring Kosova back under there control and invaded Macedonia and bosnia,both are near defeat when greece and albania form an unlikely alliance to stop the serbian invaders. There is a good chance Croatia wil join in but has not commited yet. The United states is in civil war and the UN is disbanded. So who would win?

What kind of question is this, it's such a hilarious Greek overkill

There is no such thing as serbian nationalism, they are one among rare nations to lack sense of nationality. Maybe because communism took it away (forced multiculturalism/croatian nationalism overkill) or due to 500 years Turkish occupation which made serbians rely on religion rather on nationality (mentality frozen in medieval age). If you want to destabilize Serbia, better hit religion than nationality or language. Same with Bulgaria.

Also, Serbia's destiny is cursed just like Germany's; good potential and small territory, both were unable to expand and prosper(more) due to neighbors.

Next thing, Greece is strong, but not strong enough to defeat Serbia like USSR defeated Third Reich (total occupation), best thing both countries (Greece and Serbia) can do is defend their territory, after both fail attacking, whole balkan is like that, easy to check if you go IISS and SIPRI sources.

More realistic war would be between Greece and Turkey or Serbia-Hungary, also Serbia-Croatia since croatians claim northern serbia is their old region and wish to invade there (they owned parts of it for some time during WW2 when Germans gave them after occupying Yugoslavia).

Scenario crazy...as andartes saied serbs no national radicalism so they maybe will be munity among the soldiers.They just will backstab Albania and split it in half.Then long guirila was to Albanian hills would continue until turkey came and cleared the are with croati/hungari or even with bulgaria who will demand salonika and parts of macedonia.

Non-balkans want to make balkan flame war...again

Blame murican. Bring Tito back!!!!!

Serbia would win because Greece has less reinf of 8. If Serbia merges with Mace kosovo Montenegro and Croatia, Serbia would have around 10 or 12 reinf which is an easy win for Serbia considering that this would be in either 10k or 5k setting. Even in 3k setting Serbia would win with these conditions.

Напишано од boywind2, 27.12.2017 at 15:46

Serbia would win because Greece has less reinf of 8. If Serbia merges with Mace kosovo Montenegro and Croatia, Serbia would have around 10 or 12 reinf which is an easy win for Serbia considering that this would be in either 10k or 5k setting. Even in 3k setting Serbia would win with these conditions.

IF serbia would merge with kosovo. Only IF .

besides how can serbia merge with kosovo when kosovo is under albanian territory ? makes 0 sense

Напишано од AlBoZzZ, 27.12.2017 at 15:49

Напишано од boywind2, 27.12.2017 at 15:46

Serbia would win because Greece has less reinf of 8. If Serbia merges with Mace kosovo Montenegro and Croatia, Serbia would have around 10 or 12 reinf which is an easy win for Serbia considering that this would be in either 10k or 5k setting. Even in 3k setting Serbia would win with these conditions.

IF serbia would merge with kosovo. Only IF .

besides how can serbia merge with kosovo when kosovo is under albanian territory ? makes 0 sense

Hm. I guess you are right. It would make much more sense if Albania took Kosovo during this war. Then it would lead to Serbia having 9 or 10 reinf. Maybe Greece can get USA to help so they can use DS for some easy inf shredding. But then again, IF is a very strong pick with Serbia.

Напишано од boywind2, 27.12.2017 at 15:52

Напишано од AlBoZzZ, 27.12.2017 at 15:49

Напишано од boywind2, 27.12.2017 at 15:46

Serbia would win because Greece has less reinf of 8. If Serbia merges with Mace kosovo Montenegro and Croatia, Serbia would have around 10 or 12 reinf which is an easy win for Serbia considering that this would be in either 10k or 5k setting. Even in 3k setting Serbia would win with these conditions.

IF serbia would merge with kosovo. Only IF .

besides how can serbia merge with kosovo when kosovo is under albanian territory ? makes 0 sense

Hm. I guess you are right. It would make much more sense if Albania took Kosovo during this war. Then it would lead to Serbia having 9 or 10 reinf. Maybe Greece can get USA to help so they can use DS for some easy inf shredding. But then again, IF is a very strong pick with Serbia.

Kosovo is already part of Albania. you cant take something you already own. When i said IF i didnt mean the aw strat, i meant the word IF.

Also greece doesnt have usa support anymore. I remember many years ago a usa president visited greece, no one gave a shit (i think it was bush). Once russian president came there all greeks were on streets saluting russians. That made their stance very clear, and now theyre on poverty without usa help anymore. Greece its on its own lol

Напишано од Skanderbeg, 27.12.2017 at 14:15

There is no such thing as serbian nationalism, they are one among rare nations to lack sense of nationality. Maybe because communism took it away (forced multiculturalism/croatian nationalism overkill) or due to 500 years Turkish occupation which made serbians rely on religion rather on nationality (mentality frozen in medieval age). If you want to destabilize Serbia, better hit religion than nationality or language. Same with Bulgaria.

Also, Serbia's destiny is cursed just like Germany's; good potential and small territory, both were unable to expand and prosper(more) due to neighbors.

Next thing, Greece is strong, but not strong enough to defeat Serbia like USSR defeated Third Reich (total occupation), best thing both countries (Greece and Serbia) can do is defend their territory, after both fail attacking, whole balkan is like that, easy to check if you go IISS and SIPRI sources.

More realistic war would be between Greece and Turkey or Serbia-Hungary, also Serbia-Croatia since croatians claim northern serbia is their old region and wish to invade there (they owned parts of it for some time during WW2 when Germans gave them after occupying Yugoslavia).

hypothetical mean not real but at the very least plausable, which this is just that, not real but at least plausable.

Both countries have enemies. It will esclate into full balkans war

Напишано од Guest, 28.12.2017 at 08:43

Greece to stomp Serbia, then we off to reclaim Constantinople!

Constantinople belongs to Russia, sorry.

Напишано од Skanderbeg, 28.12.2017 at 12:00

Напишано од Guest, 28.12.2017 at 08:43

Greece to stomp Serbia, then we off to reclaim Constantinople!

Constantinople belongs to Russia, sorry.

Why? It belongs to Turkey but if someone were to have it I see Greece as the true heir because they founded, built and lived in the city untill the Pontic & Armenian genocide.

But are you meaning that Russia is technically the heir to the Byzantine Empire itself?

Напишано од Pythagoras, 28.12.2017 at 12:11

Why? It belongs to Turkey but if someone were to have it I see Greece as the true heir because they founded, built and lived in the city untill the Pontic & Armenian genocide.

But are you meaning that Russia is technically the heir to the Byzantine Empire itself?

Short answer: consider it as 'Russian Gibraltar'.

Long answer: It was aim of Russian planners for centuries because it gives a way out of Black Sea + it was Turkish capital so you solve 2 problems with 1 annexation. And it was Russia goal during WW1, the army already entered Turkey through east (caucasus) and made a move westward towards Ankara, it would take years to reach Constaninople maybe, but it was planned, but communists started revolution and army had to withdraw to fight in the civil war.

Напишано од Skanderbeg, 28.12.2017 at 12:21

Напишано од Pythagoras, 28.12.2017 at 12:11

Why? It belongs to Turkey but if someone were to have it I see Greece as the true heir because they founded, built and lived in the city untill the Pontic & Armenian genocide.

But are you meaning that Russia is technically the heir to the Byzantine Empire itself?

Short answer: consider it as 'Russian Gibraltar'.

Long answer: It was aim of Russian planners for centuries because it gives a way out of Black Sea + it was Turkish capital so you solve 2 problems with 1 annexation. And it was Russia goal during WW1, the army already entered Turkey through east (caucasus) and made a move westward towards Ankara, it would take years to reach Constaninople maybe, but it was planned, but communists started revolution and army had to withdraw to fight in the civil war.

so just because its convinient for russia to have it , it belongs to Russia? what a logic

Um, in less than an hour we would unconditionally surrender to Greece.

We're crazy, but not crazy enough to fight Spartans. xD

Напишано од Steve Aoki, 28.12.2017 at 12:35

Um, in less than an hour we would unconditionally surrender to Greece.

We're crazy, but not crazy enough to fight Spartans. xD

That's the spirit!

Maybe if Greece went full wall spam and somehow out expands Serbia or with good rolls as IF Greece, maybe Greece can win combined balkan Serbia. I think it might vary on rolls.

Напишано од boywind2, 28.12.2017 at 14:48

Maybe if Greece went full wall spam and somehow out expands Serbia or with good rolls as IF Greece, maybe Greece can win combined balkan Serbia. I think it might vary on rolls.

nahh too complicated. theyll just go ahead and make it realistiv by backstabbing serbs. greeks are good at that

Напишано од AlBoZzZ, 28.12.2017 at 12:27

so just because its convinient for russia to have it , it belongs to Russia? what a logic

That's geopolitics, no emotions. England took Gibraltar, Albania took Kosovo and Russia planned to take Constantinople [after Turks took it from Greeks after being weak from crusade occupation].

Напишано од Skanderbeg, 29.12.2017 at 12:40

Напишано од AlBoZzZ, 28.12.2017 at 12:27

so just because its convinient for russia to have it , it belongs to Russia? what a logic

That's geopolitics, no emotions. England took Gibraltar, Albania took Kosovo and Russia planned to take Constantinople [after Turks took it from Greeks after being weak from crusade occupation].

but then why you say constandinopole BELONGS to russia?

Напишано од Skanderbeg, 29.12.2017 at 12:40

That's geopolitics, no emotions. England took Gibraltar, Albania took Kosovo and Russia planned to take Constantinople [after Turks took it from Greeks after being weak from crusade occupation].

Gibraltar is a rock. Constantinople is one of the largest cities in Europe...

Напишано од Skanderbeg, 29.12.2017 at 12:40

Напишано од AlBoZzZ, 28.12.2017 at 12:27

so just because its convinient for russia to have it , it belongs to Russia? what a logic

That's geopolitics, no emotions. England took Gibraltar, Albania took Kosovo and Russia planned to take Constantinople [after Turks took it from Greeks after being weak from crusade occupation].

Albania owns Kosovo atm??? I thought Kosovo was independent

Напишано од Cheerfultitanic, 30.12.2017 at 21:43

Напишано од Skanderbeg, 29.12.2017 at 12:40

Напишано од AlBoZzZ, 28.12.2017 at 12:27

so just because its convinient for russia to have it , it belongs to Russia? what a logic

That's geopolitics, no emotions. England took Gibraltar, Albania took Kosovo and Russia planned to take Constantinople [after Turks took it from Greeks after being weak from crusade occupation].

Albania owns Kosovo atm??? I thought Kosovo was independent

It is stop listening to those people....