THIS GAME NEED REFORM

I can't understand why noone scream about it, but im sick of seeing ruined games by LEAVERS
actualy im enjoying ruining game and im doing, im ruining games by LEAVING
because there is no rule against THAT
and its STUPID
this game need reform and ever single day you guys losing PLAYERS
example ME
because this is waste of TIME
make REFORMS

What reforms do you suggest? As far as I see it, there is no way to stop people leaving, if they can't they'll just dc or go afk with the same result. You can't force people to play. It annoys everyone, but what can anyone do?

Also,

Realy guys thousands people playing this game and no good solution ? or you guys trying to make happy everyone ? look what i ll say... U CANT. You have to select, professional players or noobs you cant make both them happy.
Cut their sp punish them do something im sure mods ll find good something about punishing, so maybe people will learn if they have no time to play, WONT JOIN
im saying again you cant make both side happy, but i guess ADMINS ARE SCARING to make an choice.

You in wrong forum. this should be in discussion first. Because you didn't told us what type of reform.

Напишано од Htin, 06.06.2014 at 12:36

You in wrong forum. this should be in discussion first. Because you didn't told us what type of reform.

My idea is the this game needed a good reform, thats my idea.

Напишано од Goblin, 06.06.2014 at 13:04

Напишано од Cloverfield, 06.06.2014 at 12:46

My idea is the this game needed a good reform, thats my idea.

Sorry, but thats not an idea, its a statement.

it is a good idea, its just that people bitch about change.

Thats the biggest problem of ATWAR, people just ignoring they becomes blind when they about to make radical decision, they like about " any better idea ?"
yeah there is an idea -PUNISH THEM SOMEHOW-

Напишано од Cloverfield, 06.06.2014 at 13:21

-PUNISH THEM SOMEHOW-

The somehow is the problem here. If there's no proposal what can we implement?

Напишано од EndsOfInvention, 06.06.2014 at 13:26

Напишано од Cloverfield, 06.06.2014 at 13:21

-PUNISH THEM SOMEHOW-

The somehow is the problem here. If there's no proposal what can we implement?

Dude there is bunch of way to punish a player, problem is ADMINS are affraid to make that, because they want to make everyone happy, i just said cut some sp from who left the game (example; before 10. turn) and they ll learn not to join games if they dont have a time for this.

Amok and Ivan will surely get into this threads.But look this is often haррening.Everybody agrees but some idiots must always ruin the game by leaving,wall block 1 turn.I know how you feel.

Напишано од Goblin, 06.06.2014 at 13:40

If you want punishment first you need to acknowledge:
- what is the crime?
- at what turn leaving is a crime?
- is leaving of a individual justified or did he troll?
- is surrendering at first or second turn or even 10 as someone suggested above also a crime? ...did a player do it because it was game over for him or did he intend to troll
- etc. etc. etc.

See the problem ...you cant put anyone who leaves a game in the same basket or you will punish innocent players in the proces because of the few morons.

we have to find a solution and we have to deal with this solution ll hurt some players but its has to done somehow, it cant go like this
personally i just stopped playing atwar cause this, u can check my istatistics and what im seeing about this game just loosing player
there is no way to make it perfect but there is need to be something done

Напишано од Goblin, 06.06.2014 at 13:40

If you want punishment first you need to acknowledge:
- what is the crime?
- at what turn leaving is a crime?
- is leaving of a individual justified or did he troll?
- is surrendering at first or second turn or even 10 as someone suggested above also a crime? ...did a player do it because it was game over for him or did he intend to troll
- etc. etc. etc.

See the problem ...you cant put anyone who leaves a game in the same basket or you will punish innocent players in the proces because of the few morons.

if somebody leaves a scenario turn 5 or before, he is either a troll or deserves to lose.

Напишано од Cloverfield, 06.06.2014 at 13:50

Напишано од Goblin, 06.06.2014 at 13:40

If you want punishment first you need to acknowledge:
- what is the crime?
- at what turn leaving is a crime?
- is leaving of a individual justified or did he troll?
- is surrendering at first or second turn or even 10 as someone suggested above also a crime? ...did a player do it because it was game over for him or did he intend to troll
- etc. etc. etc.

See the problem ...you cant put anyone who leaves a game in the same basket or you will punish innocent players in the proces because of the few morons.

we have to find a solution and we have to deal with this solution ll hurt some players but its has to done somehow, it cant go like this
personally i just stopped playing atwar cause this, u can check my istatistics and what im seeing about this game just loosing player
there is no way to make it perfect but there is need to be something done

Play FFA. no alliance. Fight for yourself. no team game, when one leave it upset the alliance of the game greater than a noob is in your team. 0 alliance may be the cure

Напишано од Htin, 06.06.2014 at 14:09

Напишано од Cloverfield, 06.06.2014 at 13:50

Напишано од Goblin, 06.06.2014 at 13:40

If you want punishment first you need to acknowledge:
- what is the crime?
- at what turn leaving is a crime?
- is leaving of a individual justified or did he troll?
- is surrendering at first or second turn or even 10 as someone suggested above also a crime? ...did a player do it because it was game over for him or did he intend to troll
- etc. etc. etc.

See the problem ...you cant put anyone who leaves a game in the same basket or you will punish innocent players in the proces because of the few morons.

we have to find a solution and we have to deal with this solution ll hurt some players but its has to done somehow, it cant go like this
personally i just stopped playing atwar cause this, u can check my istatistics and what im seeing about this game just loosing player
there is no way to make it perfect but there is need to be something done

Play FFA. no alliance. Fight for yourself. no team game, when one leave it upset the alliance of the game greater than a noob is in your team. 0 alliance may be the cure

well actualy im not enjoying that kind games since 4 lvl im a scenario guy

Напишано од Goblin, 06.06.2014 at 14:09

Напишано од Tundy, 06.06.2014 at 13:54

if somebody leaves a scenario turn 5 or before, he is either a troll or deserves to lose.

True ...

wait what about times when everyone agrees to leave and remake?

what if we have it set, that the host can leave without penalty, and if he does: everybody else can quit without penalty too.

What blows me away is that players read that this guy admits to ruining games frequently, yet nobody calls him out on it. That's insane. But insanity is common.

Напишано од Cloverfield, 06.06.2014 at 12:01

I can't understand why noone scream about it, but im sick of seeing ruined games by LEAVERS
actualy im enjoying ruining game and im doing, im ruining games by LEAVING
because there is no rule against THAT
and its STUPID
this game need reform and ever single day you guys losing PLAYERS
example ME
because this is waste of TIME
make REFORMS

You're funny. You ruined WW2 and other games yet you complain about this same behaviour. You are asking for punishment against yourself.


Therefore, I will propose the first "reform" : Ban cloverfield.

Maybe if an AI was incorporated into a scenario. For example, if someone joins a scenario and then quits, that players country would be taken over by an AI for the remainder of the game to prevent a remake. This would be mostly for scenarios however. I don't believe it is a good idea to punish innocent players in a non-scenario game. I have no idea how this would be implemented but this may be a solution.

Напишано од Brandyjack, 06.06.2014 at 19:38

Напишано од Tundy, 06.06.2014 at 19:37

Напишано од Brandyjack, 06.06.2014 at 19:00

Напишано од Tundy, 06.06.2014 at 18:49

Напишано од Brandyjack, 06.06.2014 at 17:50

The OP is a selfish fucker who deserves leavers in everyone of his games. Sometimes things come up, you fucking retard. I had to leave a particularly profitable RP game because there was a fire in my building. What am I supposed to do, play through the fire you dumbfuck? Take this idea and shove it down your throat so you can suffocate and die on it.

Don't you understand what a fucking scenario means? RP is not a scenario is a map, if you leave nobody cares because you can be replaced by another noob like you, in a scenario if you quit: nobody can take your place!

In extreme cases like that, If you rather keep your sp rather than your life, then you are some pathetic and lonely individual.

You fucking moron, that's my point.

no, you say something more like: "IGFDJIGHDFG FAG FUCKING ASSHOLE U KILLING MY GAME STYLE, WHAT IF THERE WAS A FIRE IN MY HOUSE".

which clearly is irrelevant to this topic

Take some advice, faggot, and lose your virginity.

Pffft. The typical response of an idiot who got owned and has nothing else to say on-topic. RP is not a scenario, it's a joke and nobody cares if you leave RP.

I once left UN turn 1 and almost got banned by abfahren (back then, he was an admin)

When is cloverfield going to get banned?

Напишано од Cloverfield, 06.06.2014 at 12:01

actualy im enjoying ruining game and im doing, im ruining games by LEAVING

and lol at how everyone keeps ignoring this. It helps to wake up from your zombie, hypnotic state from time to time, idiots.

Напишано од Unleasheds Wrath, 07.06.2014 at 03:12

I once left UN turn 1 and almost got banned by abfahren (back then, he was an admin)

When is cloverfield going to get banned?

Напишано од Cloverfield, 06.06.2014 at 12:01

actualy im enjoying ruining game and im doing, im ruining games by LEAVING

they can't ban you for this, THERE IS NO RULE ABOUT THAT

But you deserve to be banned. You are ruining the game experience for many players here, ON PURPOSE.

I think there's a rule that says, don't interfere with other player's game enjoyment, don't ruin it for them etc etc or something similar. And yes you can. A user, Anon, once got banned this way for ruining my WW1 countless times.

Doesn't anybody see the HUGE IRONY of this thread?

Напишано од Unleasheds Wrath, 07.06.2014 at 03:17

But you deserve to be banned. You are ruining the game experience for many players here, ON PURPOSE.

I think there's a rule that says, don't interfere with other player's game enjoyment, don't ruin it for them etc etc or something similar. And yes you can. A user, Anon, once got banned this way for ruining my WW1 countless times.

Doesn't anybody see the HUGE IRONY of this thread?

its not irony
i left the games cuz i thought maybe i can get attention to this shitty securation
i made threads before but noone cared about it, so i kept to leaving games. I made that for purpose, for get bigger support to changing rules
but still noone cares
i ll keep the leaving games and i ll say my computer got fire !

Напишано од Cloverfield, 07.06.2014 at 03:39

i ll keep the leaving games and i ll say my computer got fire !

This game doesn't need "reforms". The community does.

It needs to be burned to the fucking ground.

*Just comes into this*
*sigh*....Players...leave games...often....for many reasons(must get off, Gitches, Trolls, Ect.)
You know what we should really do, Just let a AI take over if said player leaves in some games, then set up some Forum and game Rules for commonplace talk, And get rid of all these D^&* TROLLS

On top of this, We need a better way to talk to each other then swearing at each other and making Negative statement to each other. Were just making thing worse.

We also got too many people diving into this game and finding out they hate it, We need to fix that somehow to only get people that well actually play the game

Напишано од Gandalf the Grey, 06.06.2014 at 17:18

Maybe if an AI was incorporated into a scenario. For example, if someone joins a scenario and then quits, that players country would be taken over by an AI for the remainder of the game to prevent a remake. This would be mostly for scenarios however. I don't believe it is a good idea to punish innocent players in a non-scenario game. I have no idea how this would be implemented but this may be a solution.

This is a step in the right way

Напишано од stmpeng. mk.1, 09.06.2014 at 00:05

*Just comes into this*
*sigh*....Players...leave games...often....for many reasons(must get off, Gitches, Trolls, Ect.)
You know what we should really do, Just let a AI take over if said player leaves in some games, then set up some Forum and game Rules for commonplace talk, And get rid of all these D^&* TROLLS

On top of this, We need a better way to talk to each other then swearing at each other and making Negative statement to each other. Were just making thing worse.

Well stated

Why tank you

Напишано од Guest, 29.06.2014 at 21:08

Напишано од stmpeng. mk.1, 29.06.2014 at 18:51

Why tank you

Only in mother russia....
anyway, back to topic on hand

Jesus, why did you quote the pic?

That pic is huge.

Напишано од stmpeng. mk.1, 30.06.2014 at 00:46

Напишано од Guest, 29.06.2014 at 21:08

Напишано од stmpeng. mk.1, 29.06.2014 at 18:51

Why tank you

Only in mother russia....
anyway, back to topic on hand

lol