More Power to Mapmakers

Напишано од Goblin, 19.01.2015 at 12:36

Quote ...from who? Written by who and when? ...do you think im an idiot Pulse?

Напишано од Permamuted, 19.01.2015 at 12:36

Напишано од Tundy, 19.01.2015 at 12:27

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

thats a bit dramatic... I supported the previous mapmakers strike, it was well intentioned and demanded an issue that needed adressing be noticed. However what you guys seek now is the ability to ban players on your own personal whims.

for example

"i dont like this guy cause hes asian, banned"

"i dont like this guy cause hes friends with an asian, banned"

While you or goblin may not pull this kind of thing, others will.

Напишано од KYBL, 19.01.2015 at 12:38

Напишано од Permamuted, 19.01.2015 at 12:36

Напишано од Tundy, 19.01.2015 at 12:27

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

thats a bit dramatic... I supported the previous mapmakers strike, it was well intentioned and demanded an issue that needed adressing be noticed. However what you guys seek now is the ability to ban players on your own personal whims.

for example

"i dont like this guy cause hes asian, banned"

"i dont like this guy cause hes friends with an asian, banned"

While you or goblin may not pull this kind of thing, others will.

Name one person who will

Напишано од Guest, 19.01.2015 at 12:39

Напишано од KYBL, 19.01.2015 at 12:38

Напишано од Permamuted, 19.01.2015 at 12:36

Напишано од Tundy, 19.01.2015 at 12:27

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

thats a bit dramatic... I supported the previous mapmakers strike, it was well intentioned and demanded an issue that needed adressing be noticed. However what you guys seek now is the ability to ban players on your own personal whims.

for example

"i dont like this guy cause hes asian, banned"

"i dont like this guy cause hes friends with an asian, banned"

While you or goblin may not pull this kind of thing, others will.

Name one person who will

Martell did it

Напишано од notserral, 19.01.2015 at 12:38

Напишано од Goblin, 19.01.2015 at 12:36

Quote ...from who? Written by who and when? ...do you think im an idiot Pulse?

I wrote that, go to the previous page for context

Напишано од Goblin, 19.01.2015 at 12:42

Напишано од notserral, 19.01.2015 at 12:38

Напишано од Goblin, 19.01.2015 at 12:36

Quote ...from who? Written by who and when? ...do you think im an idiot Pulse?

I wrote that, go to the previous page for context

You ...wrote ...that. Pardon me, but who are you to give me terms of agreement now, terms that didnt exist when i bought the product and on which i didnt agree.

Thats called retroactive effect of rules ...would be like me geting arrested for doing something that wasnt a crime in the time i have done it.

Напишано од Goblin, 19.01.2015 at 12:42

Напишано од notserral, 19.01.2015 at 12:38

Напишано од Goblin, 19.01.2015 at 12:36

Quote ...from who? Written by who and when? ...do you think im an idiot Pulse?

I wrote that, go to the previous page for context

You ...wrote ...that. Pardon me, but who are you to give me terms of agreement now, terms that didnt exist when i bought the product and on which i didnt agree.

Thats called retroactive effect of rules ...would be like me geting arrested for doing something that wasnt a crime in the time i have done it.

: no good :

Напишано од Goblin, 19.01.2015 at 12:45

Напишано од Guest, 19.01.2015 at 12:44

So don't do it anymore

You gtfo with your 3935 retarded posts on the forum ...if you didnt understand what i said, you really should stay away from this.

Напишано од Guest, 19.01.2015 at 12:48

Напишано од Goblin, 19.01.2015 at 12:45

Напишано од Guest, 19.01.2015 at 12:44

So don't do it anymore

You gtfo with your 3935 retarded posts on the forum ...if you didnt understand what i said, you really should stay away from this.

So did you get banned from the new rule? Your analogy isn't the same as this situation.
also gtfo with your retarded 1266 posts on the forum

Напишано од Permamuted, 19.01.2015 at 12:36

thats a bit dramatic... I supported the previous mapmakers strike, it was well intentioned and demanded an issue that needed adressing be noticed. However what you guys seek now is the ability to ban players on your own personal whims.

for example

"i dont like this guy cause hes asian, banned"

"i dont like this guy cause hes friends with an asian, banned"

While you or goblin may not pull this kind of thing, others will.

Напишано од notserral, 19.01.2015 at 12:47

Read that post again for context. It's the justification for why you can't ban people who call you stupid.

Напишано од Goblin, 19.01.2015 at 12:55

Напишано од notserral, 19.01.2015 at 12:47

Read that post again for context. It's the justification for why you can't ban people who call you stupid.

Oh, i dont care about the context anymore ...im afraid now that you could write rules as you please and present them as something that was here all along.

Idk example ... Rule 24. all players have to pay premium again after 3 years playing.

Look Goblin look ...its in the rules. doesnt matter i wrote it 5 minutes ago.

Напишано од Desu, 19.01.2015 at 13:02

Well, that is essentially true, if you notice the first paragraph in the official rules. Also part 7 of the Terms of service. This is basically the same copy-paste (with slightly different wording) as any other game. Only open-source games may have different wording.

Напишано од Goblin, 19.01.2015 at 13:14

Well is it hard to write up several sentences about ban reasons?

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 19.01.2015 at 14:13

But guess what, thats never gonna happen in this community and we all know it.What you are asking is not realistic.It is utopic.Stop living in a cloud on the sky with rainbows and ponies and join us in the real world.Thanks.

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 19.01.2015 at 14:13

But guess what, thats never gonna happen in this community and we all know it.What you are asking is not realistic.It is utopic.Stop living in a cloud on the sky with rainbows and ponies and join us in the real world.Thanks.

Напишано од Goblin, 19.01.2015 at 14:19

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 19.01.2015 at 14:13

But guess what, thats never gonna happen in this community and we all know it.What you are asking is not realistic.It is utopic.Stop living in a cloud on the sky with rainbows and ponies and join us in the real world.Thanks.

what is utopic in what i said so far ...nothing.

Напишано од RaulPB, 19.01.2015 at 14:28

Seriously though, as nice as it sounds, it should be done like that no matter how much you want it be considered a dream. I agree with Goblin on what he says for now, rules should/must be specific as to make them efficient.

Напишано од RaulPB, 19.01.2015 at 10:36

Напишано од Quantum027, 19.01.2015 at 08:47

last time i talked to admins about an issue with mods, ivan told me to leave the mods alone and let them do work without player interference, safe to say admins do not give a shit

Ofc, if the issue you're talking about is non-sense, as admin I'd ask you to gtfo politely. If we're talking about mods not doing their job properly and having provided solid evidence, then admins would take your words seriously. If it were true that mods were biased, you would have done plenty more than you've been doing untill now about it, and you would have proofs as well. Each time that you guys talk I seem to have clearer that you've got the "power" flu. Anyhow, the only persons to give you such power are admins and as far as I see... they dont give a shit about you. They must have their reasons for sure though...

Напишано од notserral, 19.01.2015 at 12:42

Напишано од Guest, 19.01.2015 at 12:39

Напишано од KYBL, 19.01.2015 at 12:38

Напишано од Permamuted, 19.01.2015 at 12:36

Напишано од Tundy, 19.01.2015 at 12:27

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

thats a bit dramatic... I supported the previous mapmakers strike, it was well intentioned and demanded an issue that needed adressing be noticed. However what you guys seek now is the ability to ban players on your own personal whims.

for example

"i dont like this guy cause hes asian, banned"

"i dont like this guy cause hes friends with an asian, banned"

While you or goblin may not pull this kind of thing, others will.

Name one person who will

Martell did it

Not from Martell, but from a mapmaker:

Напишано од Khal.eesi, 19.01.2015 at 14:13

Напишано од Goblin, 19.01.2015 at 13:14

Well is it hard to write up several sentences about ban reasons?

lol is this really your suggestion goblin?That mods and admins create the ban reasons?Mapmakers are on a strike and jihad only for making this rule official, imagine what would happen if the mods/admins created their own reasons for map baning lol.
Shouldnt mapmakers and the good people of the community, like yourself, sit down and discuss the reasons for bans you guys want to be on there and then if and when you agree, send the proposal to the admin/mods?

But guess what, thats never gonna happen in this community and we all know it.What you are asking is not realistic.It is utopic.Stop living in a cloud on the sky with rainbows and ponies and join us in the real world.Thanks.

Напишано од Quantum027, 19.01.2015 at 15:41

Напишано од RaulPB, 19.01.2015 at 10:36

Напишано од Quantum027, 19.01.2015 at 08:47

last time i talked to admins about an issue with mods, ivan told me to leave the mods alone and let them do work without player interference, safe to say admins do not give a shit

Ofc, if the issue you're talking about is non-sense, as admin I'd ask you to gtfo politely. If we're talking about mods not doing their job properly and having provided solid evidence, then admins would take your words seriously. If it were true that mods were biased, you would have done plenty more than you've been doing untill now about it, and you would have proofs as well. Each time that you guys talk I seem to have clearer that you've got the "power" flu. Anyhow, the only persons to give you such power are admins and as far as I see... they dont give a shit about you. They must have their reasons for sure though...

the evidence was ss of Acquiesce (as the only mod online) muting myself and someone else for 999 minutes for trashing Illyria on global, then another of some Illyria player (couldve been joed or laochra) bashing evoL on global and receiving no mute. I presented this with tons of other evidence to Ivan about how I feel that some mods are abusing the idea of mod neutrality and are only getting involved when their friends or clan is insult. And b4 anyone bashes me it is true, Acquiesce never gets involved in muting players unless his friends/Illyria are insulted.

Напишано од Quantum027, 19.01.2015 at 15:50

I just banned Swash because Swash called me a fag on the forums, and that is against my map rules that I just created.

Напишано од Mr_Own_U, 19.01.2015 at 15:57

Напишано од Quantum027, 19.01.2015 at 15:41

Напишано од RaulPB, 19.01.2015 at 10:36

Напишано од Quantum027, 19.01.2015 at 08:47

last time i talked to admins about an issue with mods, ivan told me to leave the mods alone and let them do work without player interference, safe to say admins do not give a shit

Ofc, if the issue you're talking about is non-sense, as admin I'd ask you to gtfo politely. If we're talking about mods not doing their job properly and having provided solid evidence, then admins would take your words seriously. If it were true that mods were biased, you would have done plenty more than you've been doing untill now about it, and you would have proofs as well. Each time that you guys talk I seem to have clearer that you've got the "power" flu. Anyhow, the only persons to give you such power are admins and as far as I see... they dont give a shit about you. They must have their reasons for sure though...

the evidence was ss of Acquiesce (as the only mod online) muting myself and someone else for 999 minutes for trashing Illyria on global, then another of some Illyria player (couldve been joed or laochra) bashing evoL on global and receiving no mute. I presented this with tons of other evidence to Ivan about how I feel that some mods are abusing the idea of mod neutrality and are only getting involved when their friends or clan is insult. And b4 anyone bashes me it is true, Acquiesce never gets involved in muting players unless his friends/Illyria are insulted.

As right as you are Jared there is absolutely nothing we can do about it. Admins already said there is obviously going to be some sort of mod bias. As shitty as it is, you just have to pick the right friends

Напишано од Tundy, 19.01.2015 at 16:00

Напишано од Quantum027, 19.01.2015 at 15:50

I just banned Swash because Swash called me a fag on the forums, and that is against my map rules that I just created.

Justice has been made

Напишано од Fockmeeard, 19.01.2015 at 16:16

Pretty much sums up this thread nicely

Напишано од Tundy, 19.01.2015 at 11:41

Напишано од KYBL, 19.01.2015 at 11:38

I'm not making any maps if they aren't my property.