Biggwall problems.

Напишано од Guest, 30.10.2014 at 13:51

A double-wall can be broken in 1 turn, right? So doesn't that make the double wall useless? So instead people do big walls, but why is this considered bad sportsmanship?

I cant be bothered to read the entire thread and all lel.

Напишано од Tundy, 30.10.2014 at 13:36

The problem with this, is that implementing more game mechanics won't fix bad sportsmanship, and eventually this new mechanics will be abused or used as justification to cheat.

Напишано од Goblin, 30.10.2014 at 14:01

Напишано од Tundy, 30.10.2014 at 13:36

The problem with this, is that implementing more game mechanics won't fix bad sportsmanship, and eventually this new mechanics will be abused or used as justification to cheat.

If there are no rules ...how can there be bad sportmanship?

Напишано од Tundy, 30.10.2014 at 14:05

There is no rule, against me beating another clan, and then calling all the members noobs and make fun of their defeat and ask them to quit atwar for being bad players.

Does that make it right? No!

Напишано од Goblin, 30.10.2014 at 14:57

Напишано од Tundy, 30.10.2014 at 14:05

There is no rule, against me beating another clan, and then calling all the members noobs and make fun of their defeat and ask them to quit atwar for being bad players.

Does that make it right? No!

Oh that bad sportmanship ...what does that have to do with this topic excatly? We cant fix people ...

Наводници:

Adding more game mechanics may fix this issue, but it will create other issues that are worse than the issue that got "fixed"

So there is no point in changing game mechanics.

On the other hand, enemy homeland could be turned into a no-go area for the first turn.

Напишано од clovis1122, 31.10.2014 at 08:20

Is legitm to attack the inner wall when it didnt got formed correctly?

Напишано од Goblin, 31.10.2014 at 09:23

So, with all the bugs and crap that can happen ...i stand for my second proposal that we make caps safe until turn 3 and remove all the rules.

Напишано од clovis1122, 31.10.2014 at 09:36

And what you suggest in the meanwhile? lol

Напишано од Permamuted, 04.11.2014 at 10:38

Why is this thread gone quiet, are we not aiming for 20 pages?

let me see... i think we need more trashtalking flaming posts.

this is waffel



also whats peoples opinions on triple walling?

Напишано од Permamuted, 04.11.2014 at 10:38

Why is this thread gone quiet, are we not aiming for 20 pages?

let me see... i think we need more trashtalking flaming posts.

this is waffel



also whats peoples opinions on triple walling?

Напишано од Waffel, 05.11.2014 at 13:37

Because I realized you and whatever followers you have are to stubborn to come to an conclusion, in anway we respond back we get nothing but off-topic crap back, if you read every page carefully you can see how many times you guys tried to go off-topic with non related crap in this thread. How many times didn't goblin or me get no anwser at all when we talk back, and then couple days later you guys start the same shit all over again and we say the same things over and over etc.
I myself find it outrageous that this kind of how you guys call it ''sportmanships'' is between the players. Nothing but disrespectfull people, insulting your way in an thread. And now you will probably say i started all of the insults and blabla, but laochra, as for this comment right now, and on many other threads, you know some kind of insulting yourself too. So dont always blame the other side. This is what I is think the main problem with discussing either you or your followers. Do whatever you want to do, so will I and I think i speak for goblin too, do the same.

Наводници:

Напишано од Goblin, 30.10.2014 at 15:32

Adding more game mechanics may fix this issue, but it will create other issues that are worse than the issue that got "fixed"

So there is no point in changing game mechanics.

On the other hand, enemy homeland could be turned into a no-go area for the first turn.

What worst issues? ...give me examples, you said "it will" not "it could" so give me a direct example.

And it isnt excatly changing mechanics of the game is it? ...its basicly leaving capitals at peace with everyone.

No go area for home territory? ...think about that for a bit ...most of the times we go trough enemy territory while crossing it and not leaving troops in.

Напишано од Permamuted, 07.11.2014 at 06:23

if you agree with laochra youre automatically his follower, congrats tunder, i expect gifts and daily homage.

Напишано од Tundy, 07.11.2014 at 07:27

-people are no longer gonna wall their cap until turn 2, and may even make double layer walls to prevent a wf from being effective, ukraine for example won't have to pull back to kiev turn 3, he could keep expanding for 1 extra turn lol.

-so you rather force everybody to have their capitals protected until turn 3, rather than only people that double wall and waste extra units on it? Are you out of your mind? It seems you have a personal grudge against double layer walls, and would do everything to outlaw it, even if it destroys the balance in the process. This suggestion of yours is radical and extreme, it would change everything in competitive gameplay, for what? To stop somebody from walling? Lol

-maybe they could move in it, but they won't be able to stay on it, like when moving transports in-land.

Напишано од Goblin, 07.11.2014 at 07:47

Напишано од Tundy, 07.11.2014 at 07:27

-people are no longer gonna wall their cap until turn 2, and may even make double layer walls to prevent a wf from being effective, ukraine for example won't have to pull back to kiev turn 3, he could keep expanding for 1 extra turn lol.

-so you rather force everybody to have their capitals protected until turn 3, rather than only people that double wall and waste extra units on it? Are you out of your mind? It seems you have a personal grudge against double layer walls, and would do everything to outlaw it, even if it destroys the balance in the process. This suggestion of yours is radical and extreme, it would change everything in competitive gameplay, for what? To stop somebody from walling? Lol

-maybe they could move in it, but they won't be able to stay on it, like when moving transports in-land.

What the hell are you talking about?

- i said milion fucking times i have nothing against double layer walls
- forcing capital protected until turn 3? ...no wf rule is already forcking this but doesnt guarantee it
- how the hell would this destroy balance? ...wtf are you talking about?

GTFO thunder tired of your idiotic trollings ...and fuck off for yesterdays pm, i didnt even bother to respond to your retarded provocation ...get a life and get the fuck of my back.


...extra expansion turn for ukraine ...fuckin lol what kind of dumb shit you could come up with.

Напишано од Tundy, 07.11.2014 at 07:56

In other words, you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

You are really ignorant, you have failed to provide us with a reason of why double layer walls and big walls are not the same, when clearly they are. Yet you took the liberty to rage like a mad dog, because people didn't follow your suggestions as if your word was law.

Btw your "middle ground suggestion" is a FUCKING FALLACY, quit the shit.

Напишано од Goblin, 07.11.2014 at 08:47

Напишано од Tundy, 07.11.2014 at 07:56

In other words, you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

You are really ignorant, you have failed to provide us with a reason of why double layer walls and big walls are not the same, when clearly they are. Yet you took the liberty to rage like a mad dog, because people didn't follow your suggestions as if your word was law.

Btw your "middle ground suggestion" is a FUCKING FALLACY, quit the shit.

You dont know wtf you are talking about ...raging against an idea i gave when laochra and clovis asked how to deal with 1st turn wf.

Now your inventing some flaws in that idea that dont exist ...wtf is your problem ...except your personal dislike for me?

If laochra gave that idea you would be all over his dick ...sucking, licking, blowing and taking his load all over your dumb ass face.

GTFO and dont bother me again.

Напишано од Permamuted, 07.11.2014 at 06:23

Напишано од Waffel, 05.11.2014 at 13:37

Because I realized you and whatever followers you have are to stubborn to come to an conclusion, in anway we respond back we get nothing but off-topic crap back, if you read every page carefully you can see how many times you guys tried to go off-topic with non related crap in this thread. How many times didn't goblin or me get no anwser at all when we talk back, and then couple days later you guys start the same shit all over again and we say the same things over and over etc.
I myself find it outrageous that this kind of how you guys call it ''sportmanships'' is between the players. Nothing but disrespectfull people, insulting your way in an thread. And now you will probably say i started all of the insults and blabla, but laochra, as for this comment right now, and on many other threads, you know some kind of insulting yourself too. So dont always blame the other side. This is what I is think the main problem with discussing either you or your followers. Do whatever you want to do, so will I and I think i speak for goblin too, do the same.

if you agree with laochra youre automatically his follower, congrats tunder, i expect gifts and daily homage.

waffel more lies, im not even going to point out your lies for you this time. I'd ask you to point out where you were insulted and disrespected but im not goingto bother. Feel free to feel all insulted and disrespected by my joke youtube clip. A conclusion was reached in this thread 2-3 pages ago, goblin made his future intentions clear, double wall and therell be no problem. You made yours, you will first turn wf. I made mine, i wont play vs you.

Please note that after 2 or 3 back and forths me and desu came to a conclusion. it took me you and goblin 14 pages. Now who here has communication problems? Tunder is totally, right, if logic and reason cant change a persons mind then nothing can and you're wasting your time.

Напишано од Waffel, 07.11.2014 at 14:05

Напишано од Permamuted, 07.11.2014 at 06:23

Напишано од Waffel, 05.11.2014 at 13:37

Because I realized you and whatever followers you have are to stubborn to come to an conclusion, in anway we respond back we get nothing but off-topic crap back, if you read every page carefully you can see how many times you guys tried to go off-topic with non related crap in this thread. How many times didn't goblin or me get no anwser at all when we talk back, and then couple days later you guys start the same shit all over again and we say the same things over and over etc.
I myself find it outrageous that this kind of how you guys call it ''sportmanships'' is between the players. Nothing but disrespectfull people, insulting your way in an thread. And now you will probably say i started all of the insults and blabla, but laochra, as for this comment right now, and on many other threads, you know some kind of insulting yourself too. So dont always blame the other side. This is what I is think the main problem with discussing either you or your followers. Do whatever you want to do, so will I and I think i speak for goblin too, do the same.

if you agree with laochra youre automatically his follower, congrats tunder, i expect gifts and daily homage.

waffel more lies, im not even going to point out your lies for you this time. I'd ask you to point out where you were insulted and disrespected but im not goingto bother. Feel free to feel all insulted and disrespected by my joke youtube clip. A conclusion was reached in this thread 2-3 pages ago, goblin made his future intentions clear, double wall and therell be no problem. You made yours, you will first turn wf. I made mine, i wont play vs you.

Please note that after 2 or 3 back and forths me and desu came to a conclusion. it took me you and goblin 14 pages. Now who here has communication problems? Tunder is totally, right, if logic and reason cant change a persons mind then nothing can and you're wasting your time.

Actually, you and desu didnt come to anny conclusions at all. He made it clear you misunderstood his comment, he said complete something else than you did and also said he did not agree with you.
Dont come here with communication when you are part of the problem between miscommunication. You don't reply to any of the things we HAVE to reply to you. When we come with something you have nothing to say about, you'll start the ''more lies'' '' im not gonna take time to respond to those lies''
When we do this, you say ''nice sillence, i dont see anyone talking anymore'' blabla.

Grow up. And stop talking to me, im done with your annoying behaviour,
This is what you call support. Some random guy who has never but never been in any of our discussions, almost never plays 3v3s and was banned for years.
And that 'support' went off-topic and came with useless thread things and whatsoever..

Напишано од Tundy, 07.11.2014 at 14:41

Wow so much ad hominem

Напишано од Tundy, 07.11.2014 at 14:41

Напишано од Waffel, 07.11.2014 at 14:05

Напишано од Permamuted, 07.11.2014 at 06:23

Напишано од Waffel, 05.11.2014 at 13:37

Because I realized you and whatever followers you have are to stubborn to come to an conclusion, in anway we respond back we get nothing but off-topic crap back, if you read every page carefully you can see how many times you guys tried to go off-topic with non related crap in this thread. How many times didn't goblin or me get no anwser at all when we talk back, and then couple days later you guys start the same shit all over again and we say the same things over and over etc.
I myself find it outrageous that this kind of how you guys call it ''sportmanships'' is between the players. Nothing but disrespectfull people, insulting your way in an thread. And now you will probably say i started all of the insults and blabla, but laochra, as for this comment right now, and on many other threads, you know some kind of insulting yourself too. So dont always blame the other side. This is what I is think the main problem with discussing either you or your followers. Do whatever you want to do, so will I and I think i speak for goblin too, do the same.

if you agree with laochra youre automatically his follower, congrats tunder, i expect gifts and daily homage.

waffel more lies, im not even going to point out your lies for you this time. I'd ask you to point out where you were insulted and disrespected but im not goingto bother. Feel free to feel all insulted and disrespected by my joke youtube clip. A conclusion was reached in this thread 2-3 pages ago, goblin made his future intentions clear, double wall and therell be no problem. You made yours, you will first turn wf. I made mine, i wont play vs you.

Please note that after 2 or 3 back and forths me and desu came to a conclusion. it took me you and goblin 14 pages. Now who here has communication problems? Tunder is totally, right, if logic and reason cant change a persons mind then nothing can and you're wasting your time.

Actually, you and desu didnt come to anny conclusions at all. He made it clear you misunderstood his comment, he said complete something else than you did and also said he did not agree with you.
Dont come here with communication when you are part of the problem between miscommunication. You don't reply to any of the things we HAVE to reply to you. When we come with something you have nothing to say about, you'll start the ''more lies'' '' im not gonna take time to respond to those lies''
When we do this, you say ''nice sillence, i dont see anyone talking anymore'' blabla.

Grow up. And stop talking to me, im done with your annoying behaviour,
This is what you call support. Some random guy who has never but never been in any of our discussions, almost never plays 3v3s and was banned for years.
And that 'support' went off-topic and came with useless thread things and whatsoever..

Wow so much ad hominem

Trying to discredit me, its not gonna make my argument less valid.
Those accusations are lies: in the last 100 days, i been more active than you when it comes to clan wars.
I don't play 3v3 in a daily basis because there is no challenge, random high ranks are really easy to beat, so i only play 3v3 when i want to try out hipster tactics. There are cases in which i have beat you and other "competitive" players, so saying i have no experience in the competitive field is false.

I don't participate in most of your discussions, because most of them are stupid or i don't care about the issue. That doesn't mean i don't know how to debate.

>picture of me trolling in room chat
Do you forget you went to the Spanish forum in order to troll me? Even when you don't know spanish....

I don't support lao in everything, in fact, this is the first time i do. I hate clovis and have debated with him in the past, yet i happen to agree with him in this topic. I am one of the most unbiased persons in this forum, as i don't have personal feuds with any clan or person.

Напишано од Waffel, 15.11.2014 at 04:50

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Напишано од Waffel, 15.11.2014 at 04:50

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