Iran plane crash

Напишано од Rock Lee, 12.01.2020 at 14:14

Напишано од sirivann, 12.01.2020 at 13:47

no clue i have no idea what the procedure is or what tech they use , chain of comand to do it etc at all xD

I only know how usa and a few other western 1st world countries proceed in those situations.too cuz of documentaries and investigations done etc after some fucked up cases that have happened .

The point is civil planes are not taken as target by any rader or missiled unless someone looked for them when aiming.

Also happy new year siri! Love you bro.

happy new years man love u 2

Напишано од sirivann, 12.01.2020 at 16:28

happy new years man love u 2

Hopefully we will drink beer together next summer in Chile!

Напишано од Tribune Aquila, 12.01.2020 at 12:30

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I am an American. ...The only difference between us is that the United States does more good than harm, more often than not. We are a free Republic founded on the enlightened ideals of John Locke. ...

Don't forget the mass Native american genocide, without which the US would not have such abundance in resources ... so enlightened ... so free... so ideal.

Напишано од brianwl, 13.01.2020 at 16:53

Don't forget the mass Native american genocide, without which the US would not have such abundance in resources ... so enlightened ... so free... so ideal.

When I was 17 yo I have read John George Bourinot's book called "Canada".

According to him most conquest beyond original 13 colonies from Montreal to Lousiaana was made by New France's army. Practically Canada.

The book also tells many other horrors such as tribes sieges. Army's labour villages. Forest hunting. Destruction of Acadia. Family compact and other religious zealousy.

I am not trying to put the blame on Canada or imply it is evil. I am trying to say that a nation should not be judged by its beggining but by the process it goes through and the way it intends to perform change.

Otherwisw all is pre-determined and all is nothing but pettyness. In that case we might just as well kill ourselves.

Напишано од Rock Lee, 13.01.2020 at 18:39

Напишано од brianwl, 13.01.2020 at 16:53

Don't forget the mass Native american genocide, without which the US would not have such abundance in resources ... so enlightened ... so free... so ideal.

When I was 17 yo I have read John George Bourinot's book called "Canada".

According to him most conquest beyond original 13 colonies from Montreal to Lousiaana was made by New France's army. Practically Canada.

The book also tells many other horrors such as tribes sieges. Army's labour villages. Forest hunting. Destruction of Acadia. Family compact and other religious zealousy.

I am not trying to put the blame on Canada or imply it is evil. I am trying to say that a nation should not be judged by its beggining but by the process it goes through and the way it intends to perform change.

Otherwisw all is pre-determined and all is nothing but pettyness. In that case we might just as well kill ourselves.

Canada is just as guilty... it was more a comment directed at Sean Spicer's self-righteous interpretation.

i would agree that process matters. There seems to be a logic error though that ends can justify means, and so initial conditions are part of the process. If you start with corrupted 'code' that code persists until it is rectified. Errors can still be corrected in this (and many) cases. Iran accepting full responsibility and offering restitution to Ukraine is a step in the right direction. I bring up the US genocide though, as the US continues to deny restitution and in some cases, any wrong doing ... Canada is only starting to, but still doesn't officially admit a genocide even occurred. In other words, US/Canada/west still has it's own examples of doing exactly what the iranians are doing... (i.e. denying reality because the truth looks bad.)

Напишано од brianwl, 13.01.2020 at 19:23

Canada is just as guilty... it was more a comment directed at Sean Spicer's self-righteous interpretation.

i would agree that process matters. There seems to be a logic error though that ends can justify means, and so initial conditions are part of the process. If you start with corrupted 'code' that code persists until it is rectified. Errors can still be corrected in this (and many) cases. Iran accepting full responsibility and offering restitution to Ukraine is a step in the right direction. I bring up the US genocide though, as the US continues to deny restitution and in some cases, any wrong doing ... Canada is only starting to, but still doesn't officially admit a genocide even occurred. In other words, US/Canada/west still has it's own examples of doing exactly what the iranians are doing... (i.e. denying reality because the truth looks bad.)

As always you are such a delightful man <3

You did great job setting a coherent way to judge nations. However I do not believe it always has to do with means and end. There is third element that has to do with heart and common behaviour.

We can agree that western countries such as Germany France Canada and USA had very dark conduction. And even though they are are not entirely fixed so much had change and they are largely admires by many liberals in the world.

I agree their contribution to the world does not make genocides right. However at their darkest points they began to look for ways to make change. And that change is completley admireable. Thus it makes complete sense to see Canada and Germany as role models despite their imperfect past and presence.

It is not just the end or the result that people admire in western countries. But more like the ability to accept your mistakes and change. Even if it takes time.

Iran is still not admireable country. They have many good people. And yet this is not the first time this year they played with their own people lives to protect the authorative's name. I have seen many cases in which Iranian soldiers in Syria were merely sent to vainful death with no useful result just for the facade of their generals. So far they are widely admired but maybe in 10-20 years it will look diffrent.