25.10.2015 - 13:46
Deciding who should be on this poll was a difficult decision, and I predict the results will be very close.
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25.10.2015 - 13:56
Good idea. I'll add him to the poll choices.
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25.10.2015 - 15:16
Why nazi rats crave attention so much? Sour for losing ww2? Meh, no need to give attention to nazis, they so weak, can't maintain statehood longer than 10 years
---- If a game is around long enough, people will find the most efficient way to play it and start playing it like robots
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25.10.2015 - 15:20
1.) This post is supposed to be a joke, no need to get so butthurt about it. 2.) If there's no need to give us attention, they why are you commenting? Lol. 3.) kek, it's not like Franco's Spain lasted a good 50 years or anything. Fascist states have fallen because of war or the death of leaders causing political instability and foreign intervention by liberal countries while communist states have fallen due to unrest and poverty. Which is an indicator of a more flawed system? Those that have not fallen such as Vietnam, PRC China, and Cuba have had counter-marxist free market reforms in order to survive, with North Korea being the only exception, relying on state oppression and violence to live. Yugoslavia in contrast fell because of both + ethnic unrest. Nations like Yugoslavia and Austro-Hungary have fell apart due to ethnic groups aspiring for independence and ethnic identify. Mixing different peoples does not work, while having everyone one of the same does, it helps preserve culture, tradition, and beliefs while countering violence and counterproductive interracial activities. 4.) The nazis didn't lose WWII, humanity did.
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25.10.2015 - 16:55
I legit missed sheba. he is a great adittion to offtopic. btw Tito is winning, go Tito go (you will defeat yourself as usual huehuehue)
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25.10.2015 - 17:53
<3 thanks, I have had family issues going on so I haven't been online, I'm on for the day but I'll be off for a while again after the day is over. I'll be back to insulting people as usual by this Friday. Besides, without me, who would there be to argue with Tito when no one else cares enough to do anything?
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25.10.2015 - 18:00
godspeed
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26.10.2015 - 02:58
Don't forget that said foreign intervention was triggered by German aggression extending beyond what the liberal democracies of the time were willing to tolerate. Aggression is an inherent flaw to revanchist regimes like the NSDAP that is as crippling to right-wing states as communist economic failures are to Stalinist regimes in left-wing ones.
I quite like not being oppressed by the Japanese, thank you very much. I haven't talked to very many Slavic people, but the ones I did talk to seem to be very happy that they aren't being oppressed under Germans either. An allied victory to WWII was bad enough. An Axis victory to WWII would have been absolutely horrid.
Yup. This. At least Tito has a reasonably sound ideology that doesn't fall apart into pieces under five minutes of light debate.
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27.10.2015 - 11:10
Franco's Spain was called exactly like that because it couldn't be called 'Fascist Spain'. Because it wasn't. It started as nationalist and fascist but ended up as socialist-syndicalist, which is more more marxist and sorelianist-viceversa than fascist or nazi. Because fascist system cannot be maintained, it is not sustainable as it need war and militarization to live (like parasites), while not all people are willing to be soldiers and not all wars can be won - which mean first war you lose - your fascist system ends.
True, fascism lost in wars it started and due to death of their dictators. When dictator dies, people get freedom and power back to decide their faith and they don't allow new dictator to rise.
Free market is not in contrast with Socialism or Communism. There are no rigid rules to obey and blindly follow in Socialism/Communism. And if someone did - that doesn't represent the ideology itself since usually people make turns to do something selfish. Which in contrast doesn't have trait in ideology, since we see that in every country on this planet.
Yugoslavia had successful model of collectivist economy. Japanese and Germans visited Yugoslavia to check that system and learn from it whether they can use it or parts of it to implement in their economies. Japanese developed Keiretsu while Germany have Social Market Economy. Ethnic unrest is false information as it didn't happen. What did happen was creation of terrorist cells in Yugoslavia funded by America and EU to divide and destroy Yugoslavia from inside. Terrorists claim they are rebels against Yugoslavia and that they wanted freedom for their people while in reality they fought against freedom and brought oppression to their people. They didn't care whom they shoot or take hostage, they didn't care for religion or nationality which of course everyone know today after 20 years with so many documents disclosed.
Austria-Hungary fell due to war they started (ww1). They lost and people created their own states on the remnants of the Empire. They were greedy and wanted more and more territory ignoring reality and facts that there are more powerful alliances like Entente and that newly independent balkan states gained experience and skill in Balkan Wars. If Austria-Hungary allocated funds to develop infrastructure, transport and education and promoted peace and dialogue they would still exist today as a Great Power. But they chose to blame foreign country for a crime their own citizen did and drag whole Europe into world war. Also ignoring assassination attempt by Italian 20 years ago. Probably because Italy is larger and stronger than small and poor Serbia.
That is the point where we can't argue since nazis don't recognize humans. Because we humans do not separate ourselves, we recognize that we are same, same bodies, same mind, same bloodstream, same internat organs and placement of them. It is illogical to separate humans due to their habitat or hair color. Because we all inhabit same planet, breathe same air and eat same food. There is no difference. Crime is result of bad, flawed or not-maintained system. Not racial, continental or religious trait. There are examples of prosperous 'mixed' countries so therefore it is not necessary to divide people so 'system can prosper'. That's how we get to conclusion that nazism/fascism is just one of many attempts to divide and conquer (rule). First divide people to make them weaker (create borders, nationalities, politics, elites, dictators, wars, hate, propaganda) and then when they get tired of confrontation and conflict - you control them and you have power. Until you get insane from boredom and start consuming narcotics or paint your house walls black.
Humanity won in WW2 and got rid of one of the greatest evils. But as every Ying has its Yang, so Humanity have fascism.
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