Where is your PrayFor... thread now Croat?

Напишано од Skanderbeg, 04.04.2019 at 11:53

Напишано од Tiger, 31.03.2019 at 16:08

Christianity originated in Rome, and Jesus was Swedish, jesus fucking christ, every year you get dumber

Yes i am dumb and you are the smart one, that's why you live in a dirt-filled ghetto, in the middle of Europe - the most advanced part of the world. We dumber people like to clean our nations, and maintain running water and electricity

Напишано од Tiger, 31.03.2019 at 16:08

Christianity originated in Rome, and Jesus was Swedish, jesus fucking christ, every year you get dumber

We can't argue with those people . They think Jesus was born in europe and was white. They also think that christianity spread willingly and not through conquest/slaughter of pagans. Look at what happened to native germanic/nordic/celtic people who rejected christianity early on, they were slaughtered and forced to follow it. Christianity isn't a religion of peace.

Напишано од King_Unleashed, 04.04.2019 at 18:29

Напишано од Tiger, 31.03.2019 at 16:08

Christianity originated in Rome, and Jesus was Swedish, jesus fucking christ, every year you get dumber

We can't argue with those people . They think Jesus was born in europe and was white. They also think that christianity spread willingly and not through conquest/slaughter of pagans. Look at what happened to native germanic/nordic/celtic people who rejected christianity early on, they were slaughtered and forced to follow it. Christianity isn't a religion of peace.

Bro god is a lie if u cant prove something its false till u prove it

Напишано од King_Unleashed, 04.04.2019 at 18:29

Напишано од Tiger, 31.03.2019 at 16:08

Christianity originated in Rome, and Jesus was Swedish, jesus fucking christ, every year you get dumber

We can't argue with those people . They think Jesus was born in europe and was white. They also think that christianity spread willingly and not through conquest/slaughter of pagans. Look at what happened to native germanic/nordic/celtic people who rejected christianity early on, they were slaughtered and forced to follow it. Christianity isn't a religion of peace.

This is such a bad strawman and the illiteracy of history makes me think this is a troll. The conversion of the Roman Empire was peaceful, the conversion of Rus was peaceful, basically all conversions before 1054 AD were largely peaceful, the most violent things being done was the destruction of pagan temples and synagogues by the Eastern Empire. The low IQ conclusion you made by calling Christianity, a worldview, not peaceful because of the actions of Roman Catholic countries is an embarrassment, you should take it back.

Напишано од QuasiCasual, 05.04.2019 at 07:15

This is such a bad strawman and the illiteracy of history makes me think this is a troll. The conversion of the Roman Empire was peaceful, the conversion of Rus was peaceful, basically all conversions before 1054 AD were largely peaceful, the most violent things being done was the destruction of pagan temples and synagogues by the Eastern Empire. The low IQ conclusion you made by calling Christianity, a worldview, not peaceful because of the actions of Roman Catholic countries is an embarrassment, you should take it back.

Conversion to Christianity was peaceful? Look at history. There were countless millions murdered in the name of Christianity, not just in Europe but also in North/South America, Africa, etc. Christianity was used to justify murdering/enslaving millions of "heathen" people. Also look at the 30 years war, which was a war between Christians that killed 1/3 of the population of modern-day Germany and millions more in the rest of Europe. Also Christianity/Islam have nearly identical belief systems, with the same books/religious figures etc. Allah literally just means "God" in Arabic. I don't understand your logic. Countries that practice Islamic Fundamentalism today are rather backwards, but majority Christian countries have been no better until recent decades.

Напишано од Red.Army, 05.04.2019 at 00:53

Mate I'm Muslim but some of the poorest human rights are in Muslim countries. Have you not seen countries like Saudi Arabia who follow the Quran to the heart? They force women to cover up, they cut people's hand if they steal and these countries in the Middle East are hyprocites! Look at How many mosques we Muslims Have in Western Europe and compare it to how many churches there are in the Middle East.

Peace from the Balkans

That's true, human rights awful there. The only reason I'm defending them though is because some people think that due to the actions of a few Muslims, that the Christchurch attacks were justified. Maybe most here don't believe that, but I've seen that sentiment elsewhere on the internet.

Напишано од King_Unleashed, 05.04.2019 at 23:00

Напишано од QuasiCasual, 05.04.2019 at 07:15

This is such a bad strawman and the illiteracy of history makes me think this is a troll. The conversion of the Roman Empire was peaceful, the conversion of Rus was peaceful, basically all conversions before 1054 AD were largely peaceful, the most violent things being done was the destruction of pagan temples and synagogues by the Eastern Empire. The low IQ conclusion you made by calling Christianity, a worldview, not peaceful because of the actions of Roman Catholic countries is an embarrassment, you should take it back.

Conversion to Christianity was peaceful? Look at history. There were countless millions murdered in the name of Christianity, not just in Europe but also in North/South America, Africa, etc. Christianity was used to justify murdering/enslaving millions of "heathen" people. Also look at the 30 years war, which was a war between Christians that killed 1/3 of the population of modern-day Germany and millions more in the rest of Europe. Also Christianity/Islam have nearly identical belief systems, with the same books/religious figures etc. Allah literally just means "God" in Arabic. I don't understand your logic. Countries that practice Islamic Fundamentalism today are rather backwards, but majority Christian countries have been no better until recent decades.

And I showed you major events that were peaceful. The 30 days war was political, the casus beli being the only religious thing. It's also dishonest as hell to critique Christianity as warlike when you aren't citing Christian dogma or any kind of teachings. Islam and Christianity don't have ''nearly'' identical belief systems, Islam originated as a heresy. Islam is more closer to Arianism than orthodox Christianity.
Fundamental contradictions, Islam on the left and orthodox Christianity on the right:
1. Basic monotheism vs Trinitarianism.
2. Aristotelian augmentation vs divine revelation only.
3. Eschatology: More complex eschaton in revelations vs the simplified rip-off
4. Soteriology: Ascetic practices for salvation are different. Islam does not contain theosis and Sheol/Hades (Eastern Orthodox) or purgatory and (Roman Catholic). Different teachings on grace, such as it being an uncreated energeia (EO) or a created effect (RC). The Fall is not the same as taught by the EO (the metaphysical decline of the world and the hardship in achieving theosis) and original sin does not exist for Muslims (neither for the EO).

I only scratched the surface in 4 fields of theology.

Напишано од King_Unleashed, 05.04.2019 at 23:00

The only reason I'm defending them though is because some people think that due to the actions of a few Muslims, that the Christchurch attacks were justified.

Now I really am starting to think that you're a troll or genuinely stupid. Pretending to be retarded is low quality, lazy and unfunny. You're invoking examples that are even more irrelevant to the discussion since they were sparked way back in the past.

Напишано од King_Unleashed, 05.04.2019 at 23:00

Напишано од QuasiCasual, 05.04.2019 at 07:15

This is such a bad strawman and the illiteracy of history makes me think this is a troll. The conversion of the Roman Empire was peaceful, the conversion of Rus was peaceful, basically all conversions before 1054 AD were largely peaceful, the most violent things being done was the destruction of pagan temples and synagogues by the Eastern Empire. The low IQ conclusion you made by calling Christianity, a worldview, not peaceful because of the actions of Roman Catholic countries is an embarrassment, you should take it back.

Conversion to Christianity was peaceful? Look at history. There were countless millions murdered in the name of Christianity, not just in Europe but also in North/South America, Africa, etc. Christianity was used to justify murdering/enslaving millions of "heathen" people. Also look at the 30 years war, which was a war between Christians that killed 1/3 of the population of modern-day Germany and millions more in the rest of Europe. Also Christianity/Islam have nearly identical belief systems, with the same books/religious figures etc. Allah literally just means "God" in Arabic. I don't understand your logic. Countries that practice Islamic Fundamentalism today are rather backwards, but majority Christian countries have been no better until recent decades.

Why dont you read abit about the 30 years war, every historian agrees that religion was just a ''decoy'' reason for war. Purely political war for the hegemony of western europe and spheres of influence, mainly between the French and Austrians (french house bourbon, and austrian house hapsburg)

What does allah meaning god have to do with anything

Well i could debate that no man was murdered in the name of christianity. Because catholics did that in south America, not orthodox christians (we didn't change religion, catholics did, seceded from us in 1054, invented new ways of marking holidays, holding liturgy(mass) etc). Byzantines sent scholars to educate and convert pagans in eastern Europe, didn't torture them into submission like catholics did. Byzantines even helped pagans create written language, and later helped them develop culture (literature, poetry). Catholics still use latin as church linguae which is very elitist (common believer do not understand his priest in the church), while we christians use local language to pray and hold ceremonies.

Even today you won't find orthodox christian church trying to grab land or use force, they are just advising people and states, while Papal 'State' had an army, guards, bank, fought wars for land. We lost millions of priests, hunder of thousands of churches and thousands of monasteries in communism, and today the church is not fighting to return all those temples, they just want peace, while Catholic Church meddle in everyones affairs, lobbying government (ie mexican migration into US).

Напишано од Skanderbeg, 06.04.2019 at 09:59

Well i could debate that no man was murdered in the name of christianity. Because catholics did that in south America, not orthodox christians (we didn't change religion, catholics did, seceded from us in 1054, invented new ways of marking holidays, holding liturgy(mass) etc). Byzantines sent scholars to educate and convert pagans in eastern Europe, didn't torture them into submission like catholics did. Byzantines even helped pagans create written language, and later helped them develop culture (literature, poetry). Catholics still use latin as church linguae which is very elitist (common believer do not understand his priest in the church), while we christians use local language to pray and hold ceremonies.

Even today you won't find orthodox christian church trying to grab land or use force, they are just advising people and states, while Papal 'State' had an army, guards, bank, fought wars for land. We lost millions of priests, hunder of thousands of churches and thousands of monasteries in communism, and today the church is not fighting to return all those temples, they just want peace, while Catholic Church meddle in everyones affairs, lobbying government (ie mexican migration into US).

You as a muslim first free women and stop sending children to suicide bomb our cities. Then we can talk. Until then step aside and be quiet.

Напишано од Skanderbeg, 06.04.2019 at 10:41

You as a muslim first free women and stop sending children to suicide bomb our cities. Then we can talk. Until then step aside and be quiet.

Classic tito.

says blatant lies
-somebody proves him wrong
chants and more blatant lies.

It's not like you gave counter-argument to my 'blatant lies', soldiers praying before battle is OK in european white culture, since medieval times. It's not like our priests call for genocide of infidels and killing neighbors in their homes (you mixed it with islam). In fact christianity calls for defence of the believers, those believers who were raped, slaughtered and impaled by the muslims for 400 years in Spain and Balkan.

And of top of that, your grandfathers joined nazis during WW2, to emulate 'good old days' butchering neighbors, jews and christians again. For your whole history you were just joining evil empires and helping them spread death. Not a single contribution to humanity. You are personally even cancer on this game, unable to connect to other people but creating conflict and lies all the time.

Напишано од Skanderbeg, 07.04.2019 at 10:29

It's not like you gave counter-argument to my 'blatant lies', soldiers praying before battle is OK in european white culture, since medieval times. It's not like our priests call for genocide of infidels and killing neighbors in their homes (you mixed it with islam). In fact christianity calls for defence of the believers, those believers who were raped, slaughtered and impaled by the muslims for 400 years in Spain and Balkan.

And of top of that, your grandfathers joined nazis during WW2, to emulate 'good old days' butchering neighbors, jews and christians again. For your whole history you were just joining evil empires and helping them spread death. Not a single contribution to humanity. You are personally even cancer on this game, unable to connect to other people but creating conflict and lies all the time.

As I said, more blatant lies and you're copying Russian bots because it takes more time for me to disprove your lies than for you to write/copy- paste them.

The story of how nice orthodox church you may sell to somebody who doesn't know shit about serbian orthodox church or Balkans, but not to me. The first picture is how orthodox priest is blessing the scorpions just a few days before Srebrenica.
The second picture is another orthodox priest with Radovan Karadžić (lifetime sentence for war crimes and genocide) and Ratko Mladić (lifetime sentence for war crimes and genocide).

The full video of the scorpions, whole blessing thing and execution you may watch at [ NSFW] http://www.bosniafacts.info/history/serbian-aggression/trnovo-execution-video-srebrenica (the video was proven authentic in the Hague).

Okay that was before, maybe this and that, maybe things changed after the war? Well actually no, in Bosnia serbian orthodox church is now blessing everything under entity of republika srpska, from parliment via schools all the way to the electrical substations. And let's not forget how the serbian orthodox church built a church, in which nobody goes, in the backyard of Fata Orlović, illegally, of course.

When I am talking about orthodox churches it's not all dark, Montenegrian orthodox church, escaped under the thumb of serbian orthodox church and is now, absolutely normal, okay religious institution.

No religion calls for violence, but there are people who abuse religion and use it for immoral things, unfortunately, such people overtook orthodox church in serbia 200 years ago, and probably will continue to use it as a hostage for many more.

And I don't have time to get into those "antifascist" from world war II.

Is this guy really using bosnian websites to prove something? And he still think Hague Court is legitimate institution

Poor people like Staphylocancer... they still live in the 90's, unable to move with the times.

Напишано од Skanderbeg, 08.04.2019 at 11:57

Is this guy really using bosnian websites to prove something? And he still think Hague Court is legitimate institution

Poor people like Staphylocancer... they still live in the 90's, unable to move with the times.

Напишано од Tiger, 06.04.2019 at 17:30

Classic tito.

says blatant lies
-somebody proves him wrong
chants and more blatant lies.

In the name of all Serbs, we officially do not recognize Tito as one of our own. His current homeland is Narnia, Macedonian brothers please take him away.

Our rep is already shitty enough.

Напишано од Tiger, 09.04.2019 at 15:17

More lies and propaganda

Muslim leader Alija Izetbegovich in his 'Islamic' declaration before Bosnian War:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Declaration

Alija Izet. starting the war




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_mujahideen









No conversation with the terrorists, terrorist states and their offspring. American and European governments helped you against their peoples wishes. Now even they suffer. Don't expect Western government help for eternity, even your ally Turkish Empire collapsed.

Напишано од Steve Aoki, 10.04.2019 at 07:33

In the name of all Serbs, we officially do not recognize Tito as one of our own. His current homeland is Narnia, Macedonian brothers please take him away.

Our rep is already shitty enough.

Get off your high horse worm, i never desired recognition of modern Serbians: low IQ products of state-party members. Serbia was great last time before WW1, after that an european ghetto that lives off ancestral inertion. Waste your life watching anime and writing tickets in the betting shop, you're not for the better.

Напишано од Skanderbeg, 10.04.2019 at 13:16

Напишано од Tiger, 09.04.2019 at 15:17

More lies and propaganda

If thats really written in the quran and this religion was able to exist with these fundamentals for over 1400 years, then islam is cancer.

Напишано од Skanderbeg, 10.04.2019 at 13:16

Напишано од Tiger, 09.04.2019 at 15:17

More lies and propaganda

No conversation with the terrorists, terrorist states and their offspring. American and European governments helped you against their peoples wishes. Now even they suffer. Don't expect Western government help for eternity, even your ally Turkish Empire collapsed.

As I said, more lies and propaganda. Alija Izetbegović was president of the presidency of the Bosnia and Herzegovina, but he was truly against the war, if he wasn't, he wouldn't sign the Dayton agreement when another year would see serbs collapse, but that would cause 10-15k more dead people.

Oh yeah, and had we compared Bosnian serb separatist and their quasi-state with the most recent terrorist state, ISIS, and official Bosnian government with ISIS, there is no doubt who looks more similar to the isis.

As of foreign government help, europe didn't do shit, neither did Turkey. There are bright individual examples, but they as the states didn't do shit. Moreover Bosnia had arms embargo from 1992 to 1995, the embargo that didn't do shit to serbs, cause they got weapons from Yugoslav army.

The rare bright examples that put the USA in motion are Congressman McCloskey, senator McCain and senator Biden. As of those states that truly did help us is Iran and Pakistan.

Напишано од 4nic, 10.04.2019 at 13:38

Напишано од Skanderbeg, 10.04.2019 at 13:16

Напишано од Tiger, 09.04.2019 at 15:17

More lies and propaganda

If thats really written in the quran and this religion was able to exist with these fundamentals for over 1400 years, then islam is cancer.

Yes that's really written, but that's not only thing that's written.

First ayah: "And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers."

last ayah:" So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens. That [is the command]. And if Allah had willed, He could have taken vengeance upon them [Himself], but [He ordered armed struggle] to test some of you by means of others. And those who are killed in the cause of Allah - never will He waste their deeds.

Напишано од King_Unleashed, 28.03.2019 at 02:40

Since when are Bosnians "invaders"? They've lived in their region for longer than the Serbs have. I'm glad America launched air strikes to stop the genocide that was happening

Bosnians arent, muslims are, bosnians have lived in bosnia since the 7th century, they were serbs and croats, muslims arrive with the turkish conquest of the region in 15th and 16th century onwards. In conclusion, it is very much clear they are the invaders since they have tried wiping out non muslims in the region ever since they stepped foot into it.

Напишано од Evic, 10.04.2019 at 17:02

Напишано од King_Unleashed, 28.03.2019 at 02:40

Since when are Bosnians "invaders"? They've lived in their region for longer than the Serbs have. I'm glad America launched air strikes to stop the genocide that was happening

Bosnians arent, muslims are, bosnians have lived in bosnia since the 7th century, they were serbs and croats, muslims arrive with the turkish conquest of the region in 15th and 16th century onwards. In conclusion, it is very much clear they are the invaders since they have tried wiping out non muslims in the region ever since they stepped foot into it.

I guess they didn't do very good job if they failed to wipe you out in 5 centuries.

Напишано од Tiger, 11.04.2019 at 03:04

I guess they didn't do very good job if they failed to wipe you out in 5 centuries.

They did a very good job, large ammount of population converted, hundreds of thousands killed and over the centuries over a million taken away into slavery to never come back.

Muslims doing what muslims usually do set the foundation for the bosnian war, claiming serbs to be responsible is nonsense.

Напишано од Tiger, 10.04.2019 at 16:34

As I said, more lies and propaganda. Alija Izetbegović was president of the presidency of the Bosnia and Herzegovina,

Of a breakaway region wishing to become unitary republic with sharia law.

Напишано од Tiger, 10.04.2019 at 16:34

but he was truly against the war,

Indeed, by starting the war and receiving US support and arabic manpower.

Напишано од Tiger, 10.04.2019 at 16:34

if he wasn't, he wouldn't sign the Dayton agreement

But only he had to, since he almost lost the war as Serbians not only protect their 50% of land, but conquered 25% of muslim part thus crippling muslims. One muslim region, westard up to croatia even joined Serbians. That's how bad Muslim position was.

Напишано од Tiger, 10.04.2019 at 16:34

when another year would see serbs collapse, but that would cause 10-15k more dead people.

True, US saw their ally lost and interfered, invaded Republika Srpska and crippled it. Croatia was ordered to send infantry and occupy it but Israel made threats not to do it, so they had to obey.

Напишано од Tiger, 10.04.2019 at 16:34

Oh yeah, and had we compared Bosnian serb separatist and their quasi-state with the most recent terrorist state, ISIS, and official Bosnian government with ISIS, there is no doubt who looks more similar to the isis.
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Yep, Bosnian Serbs never decapited or raped in the name of God or proclaimed their state to become artificial secessionist like Muslims did.

Напишано од Tiger, 10.04.2019 at 16:34

As of foreign government help, europe didn't do shit, neither did Turkey. There are bright individual examples, but they as the states didn't do shit. Moreover Bosnia had arms embargo from 1992 to 1995, the embargo that didn't do shit to serbs, cause they got weapons from Yugoslav army.

The rare bright examples that put the USA in motion are Congressman McCloskey, senator McCain and senator Biden. As of those states that truly did help us is Iran and Pakistan.

Good folk indeed, all with war crimes record and blood in their hands. Really good friends of Bosnia. Lol this is so funny, you guys are so evil you don't even recognize it anymore.

Напишано од Skanderbeg, 13.04.2019 at 12:27

Напишано од Tiger, 10.04.2019 at 16:34

As I said, more lies and propaganda. Alija Izetbegović was president of the presidency of the Bosnia and Herzegovina,

Of a breakaway region wishing to become unitary republic with sharia law.

Напишано од Tiger, 10.04.2019 at 16:34

but he was truly against the war,

Indeed, by starting the war and receiving US support and arabic manpower.

Напишано од Tiger, 10.04.2019 at 16:34

if he wasn't, he wouldn't sign the Dayton agreement

But only he had to, since he almost lost the war as Serbians not only protect their 50% of land, but conquered 25% of muslim part thus crippling muslims. One muslim region, westard up to croatia even joined Serbians. That's how bad Muslim position was.

Напишано од Tiger, 10.04.2019 at 16:34

when another year would see serbs collapse, but that would cause 10-15k more dead people.

True, US saw their ally lost and interfered, invaded Republika Srpska and crippled it. Croatia was ordered to send infantry and occupy it but Israel made threats not to do it, so they had to obey.

Напишано од Tiger, 10.04.2019 at 16:34

Oh yeah, and had we compared Bosnian serb separatist and their quasi-state with the most recent terrorist state, ISIS, and official Bosnian government with ISIS, there is no doubt who looks more similar to the isis.
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Yep, Bosnian Serbs never decapited or raped in the name of God or proclaimed their state to become artificial secessionist like Muslims did.

Напишано од Tiger, 10.04.2019 at 16:34

As of foreign government help, europe didn't do shit, neither did Turkey. There are bright individual examples, but they as the states didn't do shit. Moreover Bosnia had arms embargo from 1992 to 1995, the embargo that didn't do shit to serbs, cause they got weapons from Yugoslav army.

The rare bright examples that put the USA in motion are Congressman McCloskey, senator McCain and senator Biden. As of those states that truly did help us is Iran and Pakistan.

Good folk indeed, all with war crimes record and blood in their hands. Really good friends of Bosnia. Lol this is so funny, you guys are so evil you don't even recognize it anymore.

yes

Напишано од Evic, 12.04.2019 at 11:13

They did a very good job, large ammount of population converted, hundreds of thousands killed and over the centuries over a million taken away into slavery to never come back.

Muslims doing what muslims usually do set the foundation for the bosnian war, claiming serbs to be responsible is nonsense.

I wouldn't blame the Bosnians for the genocide that was inflicted on them, that was fully the fault of the Serbs. But yes the Ottomans did do many mass murders in the past. I wouldn't blame the balkan people if they hated Turkey/Ottomans, but there's no need to take it out on the Bosnians. They were unfortunate enough to lose their old religion, and were screwed over like anyone else in the region. Better to be united and free instead of divided and killing each other.